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  1. #1
    Player
    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    If time is going to go into fixing Living Shadow, it needs to go into reducing the animation lock that you waste both summoning it and waiting for it to actually start performing actions. It also sounds like this "big" 120 second cooldown ability only does 40% of the damage that you would have done using those abilities, despite performing AoE moves in single target. This is a whole new layer of clunk on a flaming mess.

    I'll leave you with this: even your shadow has a better Darkside aura than you.
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    If time is going to go into fixing Living Shadow, it needs to go into reducing the animation lock that you waste both summoning it and waiting for it to actually start performing actions. It also sounds like this "big" 120 second cooldown ability only does 40% of the damage that you would have done using those abilities, despite performing AoE moves in single target. This is a whole new layer of clunk on a flaming mess.

    I'll leave you with this: even your shadow has a better Darkside aura than you.
    If Living Shadow attacked faster it would also have its timer reduced, its a 99% certainty that its current timer reflects when they wanted it to actually start its actions. Because like glamour players love their abilities to have STYLE. The same thing for MCH's Automation Queen.

    On Fray himself, one thing to remember is that they are not fully just your Esteem. They are a combination of certain parts of the WoL's emotions and the memories within the soul crystal, specifically its previous owner Fray Myste. Which is also why he takes on Fray's armored look compared to Myste who looks like a combination of Haurchefant and Ysayle. Its also much more shadowy looking compared to the solid form it takes on for 30-50 and the 70 quest so it even if it looked more like your own character it would probably still be pitch black and thus not as different looking compared to a normal character's model. Thus it is less work to have everyone share Fray's character model.
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Jubii Io
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Theres no way they're gonna change it to do this before release is there?
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    i okay with using our model, since fray in our mind is basically us.

    but i like the shadowy solid black model, so just make the outline model same as us.
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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Phelsarn Lumerais
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I think Living Shadow is Fray honestly. He was called from the regret in the WoL's heart in the level 70 job quest after all. Only he uses that particular claymore model too.

    I don't mind it being a copy of our character too, I'm just throwing out the possibility.
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    NO!
    *hisses*
    (3)

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    Player kamikrazy's Avatar
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    Jetei Avagnar
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Zwynfalk View Post
    Why is every single character's "simulacrum of their darkside" a hyuran man? Especially if said character is a woman?

    I just don't understand this design decision. There's no way that copying the player's character is too resource intensive either given that Ninja gets a fully colored second character model for Bunshin.
    It’s Fray, not a copy of your character. It’s the WoL specific drk lore.
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    Zwynfalk Fhetnborgwyn
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kamikrazy View Post
    It’s Fray, not a copy of your character. It’s the WoL specific drk lore.
    Yeah, I know. That's the problem.

    I don't care about Fray. He was dead to begin with. No WoL ever met him.

    Having Fray be the form of ever single character's Darkside is boring. It tosses the cool moment of the level 50 quest in the trash. Plus it's weird and gross gender-wise for female WoLs.

    Yes, I know that Fray was already the form used in the level 70 quest. That sucked too. It was the icing on top of the crapheap of the 60-70 quests. From misgendering female characters to forcing characters to canonically feel sad about some dumb, horny elf getting himself killed, to failing to bring back the character-copy Darkside NPC, those quests were terrible.

    This is the chance for the devs to finally make a good decision in regards to DRK again, and instead it's a job that I'll literally never touch unless they change this.

    I will never stop being mad about the lore direction they've taken.
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    Character
    Emily Epperson
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 100
    This was so painful to read.
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    Tizzy Tormentor
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    No thanks, I much prefer fighting alongside my mad lad Fray rather than a carbon copy of myself.
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