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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Josco View Post
    Spoken like a true Blizzard employee! Go see how that mentality is working out for them.

    In the business world, it's understood every angry customer who seeks out a way to complain represents many times that who just silently walk away.

    Generally, this team has listened to the community, but for WHM specifically they just are taking a stand on principle or something...idk.
    spoken like a TRUE angry elitest. The game doesnt revovle around you. The majority rules. and the majority are HAPPY. If they do what the minority wants (especially with healers) it will break the game beyond repair. Throwing a fit and insults around just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. SE does. In the business world they respect every customer and they want to satisfy as man as they can but that is impossible because someone is always gonna be unhappy and right now its the vocal minority that are loud and making a scene for no reason.
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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    spoken like a TRUE angry elitest. The game doesnt revovle around you. The majority rules. and the majority are HAPPY. If they do what the minority wants (especially with healers) it will break the game beyond repair. Throwing a fit and insults around just proves you have no idea what you are talking about. SE does. In the business world they respect every customer and they want to satisfy as man as they can but that is impossible because someone is always gonna be unhappy and right now its the vocal minority that are loud and making a scene for no reason.
    SE knows what they are doing... so well that WHM is the undisputed worst healer job despite people wanting change for 4 years now. Made tons of very well-thought out suggestions, etc.
    Yet all we got, yet again, is more of the same garbage we had all along. What's the point of another Cure II? If they really thought that skill needed changing, they could have just changed the base skill. Yet what we got was a Cure II 2.0 that will see maybe slightly more use as normal Cure II, but not much, since it's still on the GCD and healers avoid GCD healing like the plague. We also still have no raid utility past what the other healers had for ages now when it comes to defensive utility, while still offering no offensive utility which, oh! is the main reason WHM got cast aside by many players to begin with! Together with the fact that they are the weakest in pDPS, too, a development I predict happening the exact same way in 5.0, after all I've seen of the devs in my 6 years playing that job now. But, hey. Be an ass toward people being concerned. I hope for you that your rl is considerably less sad than what you show here.

    Also, mind showing us some proof about that happy majority you constantly talk about, please?
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    Alfric M'alafic
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    I personally don’t think the nerfs are AWFUL mh.. I guess Scholar did lose some damage abilities which sucks.. but I kinda wanna think of it in the perspective of the developers. Astro was really really strong because of the buffs, but mostly Balance and Spear were always being used and the rest were burned for this that or the other. Maybe they see this and it wasn’t their vision for the job. I have all three healers capped to 70 and I think in general raiding and dungeons, they will play similarly(in healing terms) just stronger. I understand why everyone is frustrated but it definitely doesn’t hurt to give it a chance ^^’ right?
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    Hi everyone ^^’

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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I had concerns about my class before SB as well. Some of those did turn out to be accurate. But I played the content and provided detailed and constructive feedback on what they could do to fix the problems.

    I'm going to do the same here. I'm not really concerned with not dpsing so long as the encounter gives me enough to do. I have always wanted to be kept busy with support, not dps, since I chose the green role and not the red one. Now if we are standing around bored, then it will be time to give more of that feedback. But I need to get in there and poke around myself, or I can't give them the sort of details they need to make good fixes.
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    Ember Foxx
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Alright this call for healers to boycott needs to stop. The people agreeing to this are wasting there time in a massive way.

    1./ you have no idea, understanding, or respect for the power of a boycott like this.

    2./ you will never get enough base support in this game to force your viewpoint as these forums make up a very small part of the community.

    3./ your demands are based on a two month old test build, and your speculations are only based on a very miniscule grasp of new systems in place (e.g. new damage calculations, trial, dungeon, raid design.)

    4./ the impact you think this will have on the game will not happen or even by some slim chance if it does happen others will switch to healer for those instaqueues or suffer trusts.

    5./ these calls for boycotts, petitions for peoples jobs, calls for mass unsubs, are more detrimental then you realize and you have no respect for the consequences. What happens if a new player or someone interested in coming to this game for the first time decides to stop by these forums and check out community feedback? I know if i were one i would think twice before grabbing this game, and to make matters worse you are going from 0-200 without any hard facts about the final build. Do you see how asinine that is?
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    Lutemis Rangar
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 10
    How are we going to drive people away from the game of no one supports our ideas? This is the same kind of mentality people who delete negative YouTube comments have.

    These are the healer forums. Specifically for discussing opinions and tips for healing. Right now it’s opinions. I’m sick of seeing comments trying to tell people to just shut and smile when things are without a doubt getting worse.
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    Nivie Guillestet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrocco View Post
    How are we going to drive people away from the game of no one supports our ideas? This is the same kind of mentality people who delete negative YouTube comments have.

    These are the healer forums. Specifically for discussing opinions and tips for healing. Right now it’s opinions. I’m sick of seeing comments trying to tell people to just shut and smile when things are without a doubt getting worse.
    No one is telling you to shut up and smile. People are telling you to not act like the world is ending without trying it. A very basic concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivian_Vex View Post
    No one is telling you to shut up and smile. People are telling you to not act like the world is ending without trying it. A very basic concept.
    My dude, all you've done is tell people their opinions are wrong for the last few days. People are allowed to be disappointed. You're no more right than anyone else.
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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpaw View Post
    Alright this call for healers to boycott needs to stop. The people agreeing to this are wasting there time in a massive way.

    1./ you have no idea, understanding, or respect for the power of a boycott like this.

    2./ you will never get enough base support in this game to force your viewpoint as these forums make up a very small part of the community.

    3./ your demands are based on a two month old test build, and your speculations are only based on a very miniscule grasp of new systems in place (e.g. new damage calculations, trial, dungeon, raid design.)

    4./ the impact you think this will have on the game will not happen or even by some slim chance if it does happen others will switch to healer for those instaqueues or suffer trusts.

    5./ these calls for boycotts, petitions for peoples jobs, calls for mass unsubs, are more detrimental then you realize and you have no respect for the consequences. What happens if a new player or someone interested in coming to this game for the first time decides to stop by these forums and check out community feedback? I know if i were one i would think twice before grabbing this game, and to make matters worse you are going from 0-200 without any hard facts about the final build. Do you see how asinine that is?
    Your last point is actually helpful, since it would hurt SE's wallet, and as we all know, that's the only way to make corporations think about the shit they do.
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Your last point is actually helpful, since it would hurt SE's wallet, and as we all know, that's the only way to make corporations think about the shit they do.
    15 angry people isn't going to hurt anyone's wallet when 95% of the playerbase is happy. Get over yourself and stop throwing fits
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