Thread: Healer boycott in 5.0

I dunno. Energy drain is extremely problematic for Scholar to have, and scholar sorta needs mana issues to be cohesive as a class. Being limited to 3.5 titanic heals every 60 seconds (including fairy skills) and then having to dip into a limited mana reserve is more interesting and forces you to utilize resources in a more interesting way than having the ability to just huff back up half your mana every 60 seconds.

It introduces actual choices and decisions in how you heal, as opposed to the optimal path just being using big mana heals and then energy draining for more DPS and to get mana back. Of all the healers, scholars definitely deserved a nerf because their ability to sustain endless big heals while also bringing lots of utility and pDPS as well as extremely potent manaless sources of healing, including the ability to maintenance heal without spending any time doing so. I can't see how you could make a healthy healer dynamic without reducing the ability of scholar to just blast away DPS and heals all day long. I just tested it, and even without energy drain, just using aetherflow and lucid dreaming, I could cast Succor 23 times non-stop, which is... just silly. I could cast galvanize 34 times before I had to delay a cast to wait for mana! If I even threw 1 DPS ability in for every 4 galvanizes I could go infinite, even without energy drain. Like its silly my big expensive AOE heal or my burst heal+shield can be so trivially spammed even without the assistance of energy drain. With Energy drain I don't think it is possible to run out of mana, even trying as hard as you can to do so, which obviously means that mana is failing to act as a limiter for the job. If you kept energy drain, you may as well remove mana from scholar, because I don't see how they could ever run out, and obviously I don't think that makes sense to do. Maybe they should have some aetherflow DPS, but it shouldn't be energy drain unless we want to admit we never want healers to run out of mana even if they just spam heals as inefficiently as possible.

I did actually have the thought that it is weird ranged DPS focus way more on party monitoring/resource usage for aiding others than healer. In fact I suspect a lot of people who play healers in other MMOs are going to swarm to Dancer for that reason. It isn't bad that they have access to these abilities, supportive DPS is a great niche to exist, but perhaps they should be sharing those tools with healers way more.

Don't know if I'm going to boycott dungeons specifically but I know I'm going to use my SMN to level in the open world because it hits harder than my SCH.

I might switch over for the instant queue for my daily.

Oof people seriously think this will change anything?
Crying isnt the same as boycotting

Originally Posted by fumofu

If healing as SCH have been made easier, i'll be playing it much more in 5.0.

But, that's part of the problem. People liked SCH because it wasnt just a pick up and go Healer, like the other 2, sorta. It was actually challenging and had a high skill ceiling. I don't raid, much, but in my group I'm the only one who "mains" SCH, and the others who "try" it every so often indicate they don't feel as comfortable with it. Similar to me on WHM, I can use it, but the entire kit throws me off if I get flustered since I'm not use to it, and it's too simple. I personally love SCH because I was a powerful healer and was able to DPS really well, it help that they were DoTs since It was a nice trade off. An FC mate who almost never heals mentioned spamming Miasma 2, I died a little inside.

Plus anyone who is good with SCH didn't have MP issues because they were using resource management. I'll admit in ARR and HW MP could be a joke for them. But it was a bit harder to manage with the SB changes, but wise SCHs knew how to use Aetherflow, Energy Drain, and Lucid Dreaming if needed, to stay ahead. My FC leader was confused when this was brought up saying he sees a lot of SCHs lose MP rather quickly. Another FC mate pointed out how I am when I play, and how I never run out, if all is as it should. Heck, I kept dying yesterday in O10S and knew how to get my MP back to almost full like that.

The main take away is people liked SCH because it was challenging. Now it's just boring. This is my first MMO, so I have no frame of reference for what other games have done, but SCH for me was ideal.

PS, I'm technically a healer IRL too, lol. If people get what I mean.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

Don't know if I'm going to boycott dungeons specifically but I know I'm going to use my SMN to level in the open world because it hits harder than my SCH.

I might switch over for the instant queue for my daily.

When the DPS start complaining about 30min to 1 hour queues due to lack of healer, something will be done.

But of course, this is possibly one of the reasons SE introduced the trust system.

So... whats the punishment for boycott-breakers? Because... i will definitely not stop playing Healer, until its clearly no more fun for me. And that will, for me, be decided on the live servers, not before.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

When the DPS start complaining about 30min to 1 hour queues due to lack of healer, something will be done.

But of course, this is possibly one of the reasons SE introduced the trust system.

They already have 30 minute to 1 hour queues