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  1. #1
    Player
    IttyBitty's Avatar
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Lucid is now on a 60s cooldown. Assize still restores 10% mana. Thin air still exists and is still utterly ridiculous.

    I very much doubt WHM will be hurting for mana enough to make Rapture and Solace appealing on a "well they're free!" front when opportunity cost is the bigger factor.
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    Last edited by IttyBitty; 05-31-2019 at 06:37 AM.

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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Semi decent Thin Air usage renders MP a bit of a non issue for WHM. I really can't see 5.0 changing this.
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    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    So give up on WHM and play a scholar like Yoshi clearly thinks we should?
    3 expansions and and SCH have ALWAYS been the undisputed best healer. Its far too late in the life of the game for this to change now.
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    So give up on WHM and play a scholar like Yoshi clearly thinks we should?
    3 expansions and and SCH have ALWAYS been the undisputed best healer. Its far too late in the life of the game for this to change now.
    To be fair it’s AST this time around. SCH isn’t top pDPS anymore, but AST has ok Damage with buffs to boot.
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    Gunther Frey
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    There are only two things I can honestly think of for whm.
    1. Changing the 200 potency heal attached to PI to a 200 potency shield and allowing Afflatus Rapture to trigger it: the only thing I can think of healing wise WHM lacks is a group shield. I think a 1 min CD that required additional input is a solid trade. If not then just make PI flat out trigger a 200 potency shield on all nearby allies.

    3. Increasing Afflatus Misery to 1200 potency: if the idea of the spell is to compensate for the lost potency of using Afflatus spells to heal. Then the fact that it still consumes a gcd means in a vaccuum you're still losing 300 potency casting it.
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    _Winters_'s Avatar
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    Character
    Foxzer Viskeer
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    I would love if WHM could have something deeper imbued to the style it plays as a poor mobility healer. Make it more similiar to BLM add a mechanic similiar to enochian that rewards the WHM the longer it keeps consistent (heals/DPS?) instead of lilies forcing you to waste or overheal GCD spells, let the lilies grow into the blood lily on its own if you manages to have consistent dps for X amount of seconds or having regen applied for X amount of time.

    Not sure how to make it work but it feels like WHM should be able to be converted into the holy version of a BLM with having a slow build up and a nice rewarding system if played right. I really dont like the overheal or wasted spamming mechnanics.
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    Omi Senu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by _Winters_ View Post
    I would love if WHM could have something deeper imbued to the style it plays as a poor mobility healer. Make it more similiar to BLM add a mechanic similiar to enochian that rewards the WHM the longer it keeps consistent (heals/DPS?) instead of lilies forcing you to waste or overheal GCD spells, let the lilies grow into the blood lily on its own if you manages to have consistent dps for X amount of seconds or having regen applied for X amount of time.
    Sounds fun
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    Aryl Ritz
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Actually yes I’m running with this idea:

    Add raid buff to confession stack, along with 2 or 3 charges for PI. Simple as that I’m happy.

    I would say reduce cast time and recast time for party and self. Then sch has Crit buff, Astro has straight damage buff, whm has speed buff.

    There, had to get that out of my system
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    Is moonlight without dark"

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    Character
    Josco Bombadil
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I don't know if the devs simply don't know what WHM is, don't care, or are genuinely incompetent where WHM is concerned, but it looks like they have decided on an identity for the class--no frills, just heals.

    The problem is the identity is stupid and inconsistent. If that's the class they want, then why have the other healers been given superior oGCD options--both ST and AoE! It makes zero sense. You want us to sling heals, then give us the tools to do that. You want us to DPS like a DPS class, fine! But don't give us 5% more potency on DPS and then give the others raid buffs which make them out-DPS WHM by 10%.

    I don't care how they fix it anymore, but it could be fixed in a 5-min meeting.

    oGCD heals, party buff, done.
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Josco View Post
    I don't know if the devs simply don't know what WHM is, don't care, or are genuinely incompetent where WHM is concerned
    All three, at the same time.

    In 4.0, and now again in 5.0, WHM changes could basically summarized as 'not what WHM mains wanted or needed.' I'm starting to think if we start begging for the opposite of what we want, we'll manage to shake things up...
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