Please Implement Ultimate Weapons for the new jobs!

[Darkpaw]

i'm still wondering why the idea of a glamour weapon for two jobs from a specific piece of high end hardcore content these jobs were not implemented during and therefore the content was not balanced around should have these weapons. These ultimate fights are about preserving the difficulty and therefore the meaning of the clears. That's why they don't plan to unsync them or even grant echo during them. These jobs include increased utility that was never meant to be a part of this ultimate tier.

Adding weapons to them is just encouraging players on these jobs to go and abuse the fact that they weren't factored into the damage calculations or balance of these fights which then lowers the prestige of everyone who worked hard to get the clear on these fights. I'm happy they did make the decision they did. It means the fights still mean something to those who did clear.

[ForteNightshade]

Why should you get an ultimate gunbreaker weapon when you didn't do ultimate on gunbreaker, let alone play gunbreaker before in the ultimate? If they do decide to add them they should make you have to reclear it on that job to get the new weapons.

Like Saber above, I have several UwU weapons despite having only ever played DRG in that fight. Why would I suddenly be required to clear on Gunbreaker or Dancer when I don't have to clear on Dark Knight? Granted, I'd gladly go back and tank UwU. So...

i'm still wondering why the idea of a glamour weapon for two jobs from a specific piece of high end hardcore content these jobs were not implemented during and therefore the content was not balanced around should have these weapons. These ultimate fights are about preserving the difficulty and therefore the meaning of the clears. That's why they don't plan to unsync them or even grant echo during them. These jobs include increased utility that was never meant to be a part of this ultimate tier.

Adding weapons to them is just encouraging players on these jobs to go and abuse the fact that they weren't factored into the damage calculations or balance of these fights which then lowers the prestige of everyone who worked hard to get the clear on these fights. I'm happy they did make the decision they did. It means the fights still mean something to those who did clear.

... you do realize Gunbreaker and Dancer will still be able to clear, yes? The weapons give one extra materia slot, or 40 secondaries to be specific. They have precisely zero impact. Furthermore, all the jobs have undergone changes. Case in point, every tank now has permanent tank stance. This alone changes the dynamic of UCoB and UwU though the ilvl sync should still retain their high difficulty, especially with other mitigation tools being swapped around, nerfed or outright removed. Regardless, Gunbreaker and Dancer aren't going to radically change anything nor will the inclusion of their weapons.

[swiss_Momo]

meanwhile, I'm still waiting for non glowing versions of the SAM & RDM ultimate ultima weapons...

[Duskane]

meanwhile, I'm still waiting for non glowing versions of the SAM & RDM ultimate ultima weapons...

Probably never with those

Honestly I pretty much find all Ultimate weapons just ugly and gaudy compared to there original besides death bringer ultima

[CaedemSanguis]

I dont find any reason for SE to not implement those weap

[Vnolan]

I dont find any reason for SE to not implement those weap

Resources to add them have to come from somewhere, and if they're going to add special weapons to old content for new jobs, why do Ultimate for several hundred players* when they could do relics for tens of thousands that would give SE more bang for their buck?

*Clears are higher in number, but it would only be something to do for those that don't have the tokens already and are interested in obtaining the weapons

The integrity of the fights was only a thing for a few weeks after release. Anyone being able to buy clears eliminates that, don't you think?

[ForteNightshade]

Resources to add them have to come from somewhere, and if they're going to add special weapons to old content for new jobs, why do Ultimate for several hundred players* when they could do relics for tens of thousands that would give SE more bang for their buck?

*Clears are higher in number, but it would only be something to do for those that don't have the tokens already and are interested in obtaining the weapons

The integrity of the fights was only a thing for a few weeks after release. Anyone being able to buy clears eliminates that, don't you think?

Yes, because re-skinning four weapons to existing models would totally cost the same resources as brand new relic weapons. In the case of UCoB, they likely will make Coil versions of those weapons.

And not really, considering the vast majority of people either don't have or aren't willing to spend 500-1,200$ for an Ultimate clear. By that logic, they shouldn't even bother with more than half the game's content because a very small amount of people buy clears/carries/levels/bot.

[Nezerius]

Yes, because re-skinning four weapons to existing models would totally cost the same resources as brand new relic weapons. In the case of UCoB, they likely will make Coil versions of those weapons.

They made new RDM and SAM weapon models for both UCoB, and UWU. It's actually unlikely for them to make any GNB or DNC Coil weapons, since there aren't any RDM/SAM Allagan or High Allagan weapons. The only reason why RDM/SAM Dreadwyrm weapons exist, is because they had to make them for UCoB, which was current expansion content at that time.

You have to realise that asking for GNB/DNC UCoB/UWU weapons is asking for weapon models to be made for content that has an ever-shrinking portion of the playerbase participating in it. It's old content, it won't have as many people running it compared to when they were newly added (and even then, it was content for around 1% of the playerbase).

[ForteNightshade]

They made new RDM and SAM weapon models for both UCoB, and UWU. It's actually unlikely for them to make any GNB or DNC Coil weapons, since there aren't any RDM/SAM Allagan or High Allagan weapons. The only reason why RDM/SAM Dreadwyrm weapons exist, is because they had to make them for UCoB, which was current expansion content at that time.

You have to realise that asking for GNB/DNC UCoB/UWU weapons is asking for weapon models to be made for content that has an ever-shrinking portion of the playerbase participating in it. It's old content, it won't have as many people running it compared to when they were newly added (and even then, it was content for around 1% of the playerbase).

Care to explain why they made SAM/RDM weapons for Gordias, Midas and Alexander then? There isn't an Ultimate for them nor will the next Ultimate have all three weapons re-skinned. Furthermore, they didn't make new UwU weapons for DRK, AST or MCH. They simply took their AF1 weapon and re-skinned it instead.

The whole point is they aren't going to make unique weapons outside two Coil weapons, which may already be made to begin with ala Alexander.

And you, the person, have a title to showcase that achievement.

And? The person they quoted said GNB and DNC shouldn't get weapons because you wouldn't have cleared on either job... which makes no sense. Hence the reply.

[Dzian]

I haven't cleared either fight, but I'd like to see these weapons added when they have time. I know a few people who farmed extra tokens in the hope they would be able to get weapons for the new classes.

Be able to roflstomp it unsynced soon enough.

I know some people think it wont be but it pretty much has to be in the interest of fairness.

When you look back at heavens ward and the uproar that kicked off when the prestige of peoples trophies and achievements were destroyed by allowing players to roflstomp coil and stuff completely undermining players efforts.

Yoshi made some big post thing about how he didn't want things to be exclusive because in his mind it was unfair.

Then when you look at what kicked off over the white ravens fiasco and how that restored the prestigious state of a trophy and again yoshis big post in response to that again repeating what he said at the beginning of 3.0 pretty much..

So now he pretty much has to umsync ultimate because he'll be going back on his own words if he doesn't which will basically send a great big fk you message to a hell of a lot of people who feel all of there accomplishments have been destroyed.

You cant have one rule for some trophies and another for others that's just not fair.