Disappointment of Shoha/Feedback. Samurai Lv80 Skill.

[Drayce1]

Actually not, This is a "This ability is unnecessarily held back by a bad execution"

as someone I know who plays Paladin at the moment, you don't have any flooring to speak about getting good. You're playing Paladin.

Correction, I am playing Paladin correctly. I am not facerolling going lalalalala on the keyboard like most I seen do. Biiiiiiig difference.

And we all know everything but WAR will get nerfed like usual. If WAR isnt number 1 in dps, utility and mitigation, then the WAR community will cry until it is.

[xxvaynxx]

As expected. Shoha is pretty... Let's be blunt, horrible.
Only one full stack on innocence, two on fairy lady.
And this one time, due to server tick. I didn't even get 5 stacks...
Shoha needs a change big, either with potency or how to use it all together.

[Edax]

Or here's an idea, the Tsubame Gaeshi historically is suppose to be a technique of 3 attacks, so they could just buff the in-game Tsubame Gaeshi to let us use Iaijutsu 3 times instead of just 2.

[Dogempire]

Im seeing SAM in top dps next to blms and getting into ex primals and new raid statics just fine.

This is a git gut issue.

The issue is that it's a skill that's impractical to use in 90% of content, the only stuff where you would be able to use it is in battles with long downtimes.

You can do a lot of dps on samurai, but Shoha is basically a useless skill with a cool animation as the job currently stands.

[Wisteriafield]

I had wondered what discussions about this skill yielded. I'm surprised nobody offered this yet, but my ideal solution is giving Shoha a 60s cd that puts meditate on cd when you use it, but not the other way around (admittedly not sure if this is possible, but then again neither does the cd business need to be a thing) and just has a base potency of 200 charging up to 500, it's a zero kenki skill, so I think a base of 200 would be fair, I doubt the job's average DPS is suffering all that much to justify this being a larger number, and to be honest I don't care that much.

The room to maximize DPS comes from knowing when to charge it up before using it, and in the case of them just both being 60s cd, putting meditate on cd first and holding the stacks before using Shoha would allow you to try charging the next Shoha before it comes back up, like a another buff to upkeep and dance around while maximizing damage and figuring out the point where holding it too long would be a loss, while the average player will just use it for 200 every time

As it is right now, I'm just going to be using it for gpose pics or a 100 potency whack, for fun. It's not the end of the world if they don't change it, but I would like to see it, it's like a mini-Doom of the Living after all. The skill feels like it was inspired more directly by Cyan's 4 hit (8 hit) bushido skill that took a long time to charge, and a lot more awkwardly considering the system had already been cleanly translated via Sen combos

[RareItems]

So Mnk has Tornado kick and Sam has Shoha? xD.

[xxvaynxx]

People are finally starting to see shoha is pretty garbage so going to bump this to gain more feedback on how people want shoha changed rather than having suggestions spread out in different Samurai Threads.
SE rather have Feedback be in one place rather than all over the place.

[Esphyxia]

Make it something ridiculous, 800 potency oGCD guaranteed directhit/crit 60 or 120 second CD. I am expecting samurai buffs and a shoha change come tuesday.