Xenosys Vex's tank analysis. (Video)

[Duskane]

I don't think its a big stretch to make warrior gap closer charge moves like others clearly all 4 tanks play very differently now all having a similar gap closer not gonna make them the same

I was hoping gap closers would get some effect to them
Warriors gain 20 rage
PLD gets a damage boost when PLD has a defensive CD/Sheltron up
Drk restore a bit of MP
and GNB adds are cartridge ( or something like that)

[Jeeqbit]

One of the only people in this community who speaks sense.

I agree with just about everything he said... even though it took 2 hours so I had to watch it in chunks.

[NyneSwordz]

I don't think its a big stretch to make warrior gap closer charge moves like others clearly all 4 tanks play very differently now all having a similar gap closer not gonna make them the same

I was hoping gap closers would get some effect to them
Warriors gain 20 rage
PLD gets a damage boost when PLD has a defensive CD/Sheltron up
Drk restore a bit of MP
and GNB adds are cartridge ( or something like that)

That would be ideal. But if they cant make each gap closer unique, at least they should make them all the same.

Moreover, i get that wars need a low rage cost move to manage guage and time their gcd or whatnot. But its kinda tedious to be doing that stuff no?

And im not sure if thats evengonna be a thing in ShB with the way infuriate is gonna work with inner chaos. And chaotic cyclone.

They should just make the gap closer a role action and give it to all. Tanks at level 30 or something.

[Maneesha]

there are 3 things that caused the pld/war meta in sb and drk/war meta in hw:
as for hw its mostly what ppl told me, so its not 100% my experience ( i started at mid hw exp with the game and reached max lvl at the end of it). paladins dmg combo was also his aggro combo, so when tanks go into off stance paladin rips aggro from them if he wants to do optimal dps, which is annoying and ppl didn't like it, also paladins dps was a tad bit behind the other 2 tanks. still paladin had great defensive capability's,but this didn't help him get a main tank spot because the other 2 tanks capability's were still enough. warrior had (and still has) a greater enmity generation on pull thanks to unchained (negating the negatives from def stance) and equilibrium, which allows the other tanks to gain dps since they don't have to use enmity combos if they were to pull.not to forget that holmgang allowed for some tankbuster cheeses thanks to its low cd.

sb released with a lot of pld changes which were great and deserved, but it looked like the dev team put almost all effort into pld and left out the other 2 tanks a bit.
after some balance changes and skill changes and ofc the 1st clears of the 1st raid tier with all classes and very small differences in tank dps between all 3 tanks, the pld/war meta was born due to 3 reasons, warrior still had his greater enmity generation, now with onslaught added to the mix, a raid support skill thanks to shake it off change and ofc he kept good dps and his low cd holmgang. pld had rly good dps and to top it off all the utility in the world. dark knight didnt get anything new to support the raid, maybe the devs through the blackest night is enough..., and only had similar dps to the warrior/pld to offer,so he was left out.

also all tanks( not only , all classes) can clear the content, but since a lot of players are "sheep" and jump on the "meta" bandwagon u see such things as party finder groups not wanting certain classes or some "about to be formed" statics excluding some classes, because its easier this way. now if everyone is a hardcore min-maxing raider, then i can understand switching constantly to the "favor of the expansion/patch" job.

for none of those reasons can you blame warrior players. did we want changes to the gauge system and shake it off in 4.0 and 4.05? sure we did, but it wasn't our idea to make shake it off into a raid wide bubble, it was the devs idea, also not our fault that the devs didn't want to change drk or didn't know how to change him during sb.

so all this "job" animosity or hostility is pointless. if you mean it as a joke or want to tease, at least let us know (i know there are ppl who like to tease this way or joke around this way, but usually they also say so).

why do i want the changed onslaught? dont like the gauge cost on it (thou in certain scenarios it has its use as a gauge dump to not over-cap) and i like the idea of adding 600potency every minute, if i don't need the gap closer for another 60sec-90sec.but as mentioned before i don't have a huge issue with it staying as it is and wont make a fuss if it stays that way.

[NyneSwordz]

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Yeah no idea why people so hostile. *Shrugs* Hopefully Onslaught get's a look at. And hopefully something about it gets mentioned in the Live Letter in June.

[aqskerorokero]

Still not going to play War until I have nothing to do. Fight me.

[Shurrikhan]

Still not going to play War until I have nothing to do. Fight me.

For me, it's a wash between the still-dull Warrior and increasedly dull Dark Knight for which tank I'll level last...

Had such high hopes for DRK this expansion, too...

[LegolasT]

For me, it's a wash between the still-dull Warrior and increasedly dull Dark Knight for which tank I'll level last...

Had such high hopes for DRK this expansion, too...

Question have you even played the new DRK and WAR ??? How do you know they are dull? Maybe I should ask you how shadorbringers ends?

[jetfire117]

Question have you even played the new DRK and WAR ??? How do you know they are dull? Maybe I should ask you how shadorbringers ends?

Man that's what I been wondering. Everyone played the entire expansion already. I'm sitting here questioning why I didn't get an invite? :^(

[Freyyy]

Man that's what I been wondering. Everyone played the entire expansion already. I'm sitting here questioning why I didn't get an invite? :^(

You don't need to play it to read all of the tooltips and make a rotation out of it. It's called theorycrafting. DRK might perform well, and if that's enough for you to be satisfied then good for you. I personally want the job to feel great, fast-paced and engaging like it used to be in HW, and I know for a fact that I'm not alone on this one. That's what made us main DRK back in HW in the first place. And we don't need more than reading tooltips and watching videos to know that the job will still have one single combo, and will have a slower-more-potent Dark Arts replacement that doesn't involve any more brain cells than its current iteration. It literally has nothing more to offer except an Inner Release copy pasta and a cool looking clone that just acts as a DoT with massive startup time. It's like a very beautiful box, but completely empty.