Xenosys Vex's tank analysis. (Video)

[Kabooa]

It's good that he seems to think the overall balance for tanks this time around is not as bad as SB. They do need to buff GNB potency a little bit tho if those beta tooltips were true.

"Damage calculations are changing". Given that the tanks are throwing out more average potency per hit than DPS, if nothing changed that'd mean they'd surge to close to 75-80% of a -Black Mage-.

Thus there are three outcomes.

1. The values are not final and merely exist for hype.
2. The damage calculations render potency meaningless outside the individual kits of the job. "Power levels are bull!@#%"
3. 6 Paladin / 2 White Mage new meta.

[LeoLupinos]

I would be fine if they remove the gauge cost of onslaught and turning it a GCD with a slight less potency than Heavy Swing. Not only that, but make it for no other GCD to start a global cooldown on onslaught, but if you use onslaught you trigger the GCD into every other GCD or add another GCD if they are already on GCD. That way you can use it as a gap closer, and not be using it on cooldown. Maybe not only for onslaught but for every gap closer.

[Maneesha]

haven't seen the vid yet, just finished viewing the media tour videos on you tube showing 5.0 skills and changes. my 1st thought was " why didn't they change onslaught to match the other 3 tanks gap closers?", thou mathematically the potency's and dps one would get if using 3x the gap closers in a 60sec window vs 6 onslaughts is the same, i don't think I'll do that given that warriors gap closer costs gauge. so it will still be the same as now : use for actual gap closing and uptime and the only other use will be while in an inner release window as a dps gain.
i don't have much issue with onslaught staying like it is in 5.0 (10sec cd, gauge cost), but i definitely would have loved to use it as a dps increase like the other gap closers and certainly would welcome a change to the skills to match the other tanks gap closers (removing it from the gauge system and giving it 2 charges with the same cd as the others) so that warriors can also make use of the "charged" system.

[ed3891]

munchkins are gonna be the death of this game, I sw2g

[Izsha]

There sure are a lot of straight up hostile posts where wars are just talking shop and some guy outta left field drops in and says some hostile crap about entitled wars and the toxic war community. Maybe it's not the wars that are the bad part of the community.

[blaen]

Dark knights have spent years waiting for adjustments while warriors get them in a patch or 2. It's pretty clear that we are abandoned and ignored. Anything we get just gets taken away and given to the other tanks and for any skill we gain that the other tanks had they get another to make up for it so nothing changes.
If you want to call it hostile, entitled, toxic or whatever go ahead but I don't think it's unjustified when dark knights have silently waited for changes for so long only to be given abilities the other tanks already do better. At that point pointing out problems is the natural backlash to what has happened in the years since dark knight was released.

[Izsha]

Dark knights have spent years waiting for adjustments while warriors get them in a patch or 2. It's pretty clear that we are abandoned and ignored. Anything we get just gets taken away and given to the other tanks and for any skill we gain that the other tanks had they get another to make up for it so nothing changes.
If you want to call it hostile, entitled, toxic or whatever go ahead but I don't think it's unjustified when dark knights have silently waited for changes for so long only to be given abilities the other tanks already do better. At that point pointing out problems is the natural backlash to what has happened in the years since dark knight was released.

Drk not getting attention doesnt make war players toxic. Every single thread that has anything remotely to do with war being peppered with "wars are entitled, war is Op" and all the other fun things doesnt make the war players toxic. It makes the (rightfully) angry people posting that junk the toxic players. I completely get that there is a large group of Drk players that feel SE has let their job down for a long time. But commandeering every thread that whispers war for the last 2 years to complain about war is the toxic part.

[blaen]

Drk not getting attention doesnt make war players toxic. Every single thread that has anything remotely to do with war being peppered with "wars are entitled, war is Op" and all the other fun things doesnt make the war players toxic. It makes the (rightfully) angry people posting that junk the toxic players. I completely get that there is a large group of Drk players that feel SE has let their job down for a long time. But commandeering every thread that whispers war for the last 2 years to complain about war is the toxic part.

Never said they were. I was merely responding to the reaction claiming that DRKs are being hostile and toxic.

[Izsha]

Never said they were. I was merely responding to the reaction claiming that DRKs are being hostile and toxic.

of course. I was talking more broadly about the constant interjections and derailing for the last months/years which has spiked up all over again since the SB2 info has been coming out, yet the same people hypocritically try to brand wars as the toxic ones. Not that you personally accused wars of being (insert negative thing here)

[blaen]

of course. I was talking more broadly about the constant interjections and derailing for the last months/years which has spiked up all over again since the SB2 info has been coming out, yet the same people hypocritically try to brand wars as the toxic ones. Not that you personally accused wars of being (insert negative thing here)

I see if from warriors as well. Coming in to dark knight threads just to say everything is fine quit complaining. It's just we don't get many changes but warriors do. Tank stance halves gauge? fixed 4.05 Shake it Off not any good? fixed in 4.1.
The fact is that warrior is OP. They have the best burst out of any tank (possibly any job in the entire game) and get every change they want. Meanwhile what are Drks left with? When did we get our party shield? We ask for changes to living dead and warriors come in and say "it's fine the way it is" while their holmgang is so powerful it can be used to break tank busters every 180 seconds.
No, it's hypocritical to say were complaining and interjecting while you complain and interject as well all while getting every fix you demand. You can't have it both ways.