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    Sighearth's Avatar
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    Why Energy Drain is so important for SCH gameplay

    So its well know that from the 3 healers, SCH was the one that was completely torn into pieces. But from all the things ( which is a lot) the lack of Energy Drain is the worse. From a design standpoint, if you cant use aetherflow stack offensively you remove the entire risk vs reward paradigm. You dont get rewarded by planning your stacks ahead so you can optimize the better use of them. You dont have any depth of gameply, all SCHs are the same in player skill now. You dont get rewarded by dedicating yourself to master a job.

    You basically get no fun.

    Losing Energy drain is way more than an 150 potency oGCD is losing what makes a SCH a SCH, planning and strategy. We cant manage the fairy in depth as we had before and now we have aetherflow sitting out of cooldown waiting for something to happen. This is very sad
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    Roshilde Umberhorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighearth View Post
    Losing Energy drain is way more than an 150 potency oGCD is losing what makes a SCH a SCH, planning and strategy. We cant manage the fairy in depth as we had before and now we have aetherflow sitting out of cooldown waiting for something to happen. This is very sad
    What IMO is actually going to happen is we're going to be tossing away stacks on overhealing with lustrate to still ensure we're popping aetherflow off cooldown because we still need the mp regen. Just as wasteful still but slightly different strat. Maybe raid encounters will be more healing intensive that it won't be a waste, but I don't have high hopes at SE's track record on fight choreography
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    Gunther Frey
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    Well Sacred Soil also got buffed as well. So we def want to keep that on cooldown. Collective might be more potent but being able to toss down weaker versions of it that don't lock us in place is def a strong suit.
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    It's stupid. They give us a skill to use spells for free and keep a stack. They give us a better dissipation for more stacks. etc... But no stack dump. How much healing is required for us to fill our fairy gauge? We're going to be overhealing just for that. Anyone who things healing requirements are going to be high enough for this not to be an issue is lying to themselves.

    I also need to check cooldowns on indom/sacred/etc but you basically would need to spam lustrate to make any decent use of dissipation. Maybe the fairy nerf means you need to lustrate tanks to make up for auto attacks.. oh boy am I not looking forward to that.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 05-30-2019 at 04:14 AM.

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    At least we got a 200 potency nuke we can weave those lustrates off of.
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    Malto Thoris
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    Well soil gets that regen it is stronger than collective because Cu got reduced from 150 to 50 and soil’s regen with the trait is 100
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    Maybe if we get loud enough we have it back :s
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    Jenna Starsong
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    It does seem really weird to have Lustrate be the only stack dump. Maybe things with change with all the new systems, but what content regularly needs that much healing from one person?
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Without energy drain or some sort of aetherflow based attack, we are basically not risking anything to do damage and not being rewarded either. You really could play AST and WHM and notice no difference. Not sure this is thoughtful design but more so lazy design. Given how screwed SCH was at the start of Stormblood, I suppose this is par for the course.
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    Yulja Soneli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighearth View Post
    Maybe if we get loud enough we have it back :s
    Exactly! But not only ED, also Miasma and make AoW a DoT like Miasma 2. Like seriously, why did they even prune all that? Do they want to lose the whole SCH playerbase? The changes do not even make sense. Homogenization is never a good way for "balance"!
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