No Ucob/UwU weapons for the new jobs? That's disappointing

[Isutowaru]

I've kept some totems lying around for GNB and DNC when they came out, but now that we have confirmation that these weapons aren't being added, I have to say I'm honestly disappointed.

Please reconsider your decision and add them, even if you can't for release, I'd love to see these weapons get added.

Edit: I'd also like to point out that adding these weapons for both GNB and DNC would add a lot of replay ability to these fights, making the fight more appealing to both GNB and DNC mains in the future.

Edit 2: If anyone thinks they should be adding GNB and DNC weapons, I highly recommend voicing your support for it

The main issue of why this exists: Since Ucob and UwU are going to be synced in 5.0, GNB and DNC mains will have no reason to go back to these two ultimates and as such, sacrifices replayablility on these fights. Yoshida wants to keep these fights as challenging as they are and cannot be unsynced, but GNB and DNC not having their own weapons makes the fights less viable than the upcoming Ultimates because they'll have weapons for their classes.

I've cleared both Ultimates and I personally find this a big issue for any players wanting to challenge themselves in Ultimate.

Edit 3:

The second issue: When T13 was released, there were no weapons for DRK, AST, MCH, SAM and RDM, however with the release of these 5 jobs, they added weapons for these classes even though you can easily cheese this fight unsynced, you still get a really good looking weapon. When SAM and RDM were released, they added Gordian, Midan and Alexandrian weapons for both SAM and RDM.

The fact they added weapons for these 5 classes for both Bahamut and Alexander **added replay-ability** even though the content is outdated with no reason to go back to them, they also added ARR Primal weapons for these 5 classes and HW Primal weapons for SAM and RDM. They didn't have to add these weapons, but they did.

it's also very likely that with the release of GNB and DNC that we'll see Genji, Diamond and Omega weapons as well as weapons from ARR Primals and HW Primals, and even SB trials. If they give GNB and DNC this much treatment, then it's fair to say that they should be getting Ultimate Weapons as well.

I am fully aware that Ultimate is content that's only made for players seeking a higher challenge than savage and with the likeness of the fights going to remain synced, I believe the fights should have GNB and DNC weapons. Owning an Ultimate weapon is already a prestige weapon, and GNB and DNC seeking a prestige weapon for their own classes won't find them in Level 70 Ultimates.

I'm also not trying to ask Square Enix to release these weapons on Day 1 of ShB, I am fully aware of the challenges 3D modelling and texturing gives and I am willing to give Square Enix more than enough time because of it, however I find that the treatment is unfair based on their usual behaviour with adding new classes.

I am very thankful that YoshiP has released these fights to begin with, and I'm certainly looking forward to the next Ultimate fights, but please reconsider the decision to include weapons for Ultimate Bahamut and Ultima Weapon Ultimate for GNB and DNC.

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Proof:https://www.famitsu.com/news/201905/29176911.html

彼らと冒険するのが楽しみになりました（笑）。では、そろそろお時間のようですので、この流れを完全に無視した質問で締めくくらせてください。ずばり、ガンブレイカーと踊り子用の絶バハムート武器、絶アルテマウェポン武器は追加されますか？

吉田: 新ジョブの絶武器は残念ながら……（苦笑）。


Roughly translated:

"..... Are you going to add Bahamut/Ultima weapons for GNB and DNC?

Yoshida: Unfortunately there won't be weapons for new job....."

Many thanks to the dude over on reddit for pointing this out

[Driavna]

Why are you disappointed? What's the point of having prestige weapons for classes that did not exist during Stormblood? Was kind of bad enough that you can buy a weapon for a class you did not defeat the encounter with. Probably each class should have its own title and achievement.

[Raldo]

Why are you disappointed? What's the point of having prestige weapons for classes that did not exist during Stormblood? Was kind of bad enough that you can buy a weapon for a class you did not defeat the encounter with.

It's disappointing because they already set a precedent.

Did you know that there are versions of the ARR primal/Dreadwyrm weapons for the HW and SB jobs?
Did you know that there are versions of the HW primal/Alexandrian weapons for the SB jobs?

Of course they're not needed, but the more glamour options, the better, in my opinion.

[AxlStream]

I mean... HW trials all got SAM and RDM weapons and they even got Ironworks weapons. I don't see why Ultimates shouldn't have their weapons specially since they are unable to do them unsynced.

[Isutowaru]

Why are you disappointed? What's the point of having prestige weapons for classes that did not exist during Stormblood? Was kind of bad enough that you can buy a weapon for a class you did not defeat the encounter with. Probably each class should have its own title and achievement.

I'd like to point out that when DRK, AST and MCH were released, they added Dreadwyrm weapons (ilevel 135) to a raid where those jobs didn't exist. I'd like to point out they did the same for SAM and RDM for Bahamut. I'd also like to point out they made endgame Alexander weapons for RDM and SAM, and they will almost certainly do the same for GNB and DNC. I don't see what your point is when I can buy a weapon with Alexander tokens for a class "I did not defeat the encounter with".

[Tlachtga]

I imagine it is because of the low clear rate overall.

Why bother designing new weapons for an old fight that the vast majority of players will never possess?

[Rurune]

I imagine it is because of the low clear rate overall.

Why bother designing new weapons for an old fight that the vast majority of players will never possess?

Why bother designing two fights that vast majority of players will never kill?
It's really bad to think like that, in general.

[HyoMinPark]

I imagine it is because of the low clear rate overall.

Why bother designing new weapons for an old fight that the vast majority of players will never possess?

Why bother designing two fights that vast majority of players will never kill?
It's really bad to think like that, in general.

Ultimate is specifically designed for the 1%. It's made for the hardcore raiders. Yoshida explicitly stated this. It's not designed for the entire playerbase. For what it was designed for, it fulfilled its purpose, and brought this game far more publicity on sites like Twitch than anything else has. It's probably the biggest success this expansion has had.



I'm extremely disappointed that the Ultimates won't have DNC and GNB weapons. I urge the developers to reconsider this decision.

[ForteNightshade]

Why are you disappointed? What's the point of having prestige weapons for classes that did not exist during Stormblood? Was kind of bad enough that you can buy a weapon for a class you did not defeat the encounter with. Probably each class should have its own title and achievement.

The title and totem itself are the prestige. Why do you have to play a specific job to get its weapon? I don't have to clear Alphascape on NIN to get the Omega daggers. Locking the weapons to clearing on that specific job would be silly. It just destroys replay value for no reason.

I imagine it is because of the low clear rate overall.

Why bother designing new weapons for an old fight that the vast majority of players will never possess?

Can we apply this argument to all the Heavensward content where they added new weapons?

[Tlachtga]

Why bother designing two fights that vast majority of players will never kill?
It's really bad to think like that, in general.

That's not what I said but okay.