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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I started on Saronia in 1.0 merged with Lindbulm to become Sargatanas. EVERYONE I know is on that server. why would i jump to an EU data centre?
    I was in exactly the same boat and eventually had to move to the European DC because no matter how many friends and good times I was leaving behind, the game becoming unplayable was too big of a detriment. If you're on a bigger ping server by choice, it's unfortunate but you should be understanding that the devs shouldn't be changing the combat system based on players not being in the "right" data centre.

    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    How about me from NZ I get 170ping to the NA servers, and they are the servers that I get the least ping to. I guess I should switch to Oceanic-- Oh wait, there aren't any.
    There's lots of aussies on the JP servers, either they're all in the wrong DC or you are.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Lol these replies about OPs location.
    How about me from NZ I get 170ping to the NA servers, and they are the servers that I get the least ping to. I guess I should switch to Oceanic-- Oh wait, there aren't any. Guess I gotta move to North America then, if I want to play burst window classes.
    Let's face it, it is SEs fault to a certain extent that they have classes that cannot be played properly due to ping. Anyone remember ARR Ninja? Mudras were an absolute nightmare, before they fixed it.
    Your data center for ping should be JP. It is closer to you.

    Yet you connected to NA, which is your problem. SEs got nothing to do with your decisions.
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  3. #13
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Isn't the Japan data center closer to you? Couldn't get on Tonberry?
    I actually still get better ping to the US, due to the underwater cable that connects NZ to LA. I get worse ping when my Internet goes through Australia and then to Japan. The distance in cable is about the same from NZ to Japan, and LA to NZ, but there's much less connections between NZ and LA, and probably less traffic, resulting in the slightly higher ping. Plus both NZ and Australia has poor internet infrastructure, so going through Aus would naturally add some ping there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    Your data center for ping should be JP. It is closer to you.

    Yet you connected to NA, which is your problem. SEs got nothing to do with your decisions.
    I ran ping tests on both servers, and NA was slightly better, but I guess it's my fault and I should go Japan simply because its closer according to people in this thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    There's lots of aussies on the JP servers, either they're all in the wrong DC or you are.
    Uhm, NEW ZEALAND is not Australia. It has differences in ping due to that fact. What's with people thinking New Zealand is in Australia? It's getting to be a meme at this stage.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-30-2019 at 03:29 AM.

  4. #14
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    but you should be understanding that the devs shouldn't be changing the combat system based on players not being in the "right" data centre.
    Honestly what the Devs should have done is left the data centre where it was... hell even the NA players said the same thing....
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  5. #15
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    Ceciliantas Dragorath
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValentineSnow View Post
    As an EU player on an NA server I'm getting kind of sick of these abilities with burst windows, I was really hoping something would be done about it for shadowbringers, but nope, so I'll post my suggestion.

    Moves like wildfire, requiescat and inner release are really punishing to people with lag.
    Why do I get punished for something out of my control? If you miss a cast within the duration it is a huge hit to your damage: Wildfire, even with the new adjustment is a 150 potency hit if you don't get the last attack in to the duration. Requiescat is gonna be a huge one now because that's 800 potency we're gonna lose out on if we miss the cast, inner release that's a 520 potency crit direct fell cleave down the drain.

    Now with MCH and WAR you can get some skill speed to kind of compensate, which is still meh cause its stupid that the amount of stats I need is based on my server lag rather than actual in game conditions.

    But for requiescat, pld's don't have access to spell speed, holy spirit and Confiteor is always going to have a 2.5s recast, while requiescat has a 12s duration, so while people somehow get 5 casts into this which should be mathematically impossible, people with lag are lucky to get 4 in.

    So my suggestion is to change these moves into charge based abilities. Kind of like aetherflow or ammo. Make it so that when you use requiescat you gain 5 stacks of holy light, inner release 5 stacks of rage and wildfire 5 stacks of heat. That way no matter how long it takes you to cast your spells or use your weaponskills you still get 5 in. Nothing would really change, it would just mean if you have to move, or you lag or the enemy leaves the field, you don't lose our on some or all your damage, you can just wait until you're ready to finish your casts.

    This would level the playing field, now people with better connections don't get an extra hit in over people with worse connections, everyone gets 5.

    I'm sure other jobs have this issue too and that this won't work for all of them, I think ninja has it rough with trick attack and I'm sure some workaround could be done for that, but I'm just looking at the ones I'm most familiar with.
    This sounds like a Let it Gooooooo let it goooooo! And transfer to a data center near you issue.

    You can make new friends. Deal with it.
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  6. #16
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    When I played on NA server with average ping about ~200, my only problem was actually Titan (cause it was 2.16 when I started to play lol). It was a pain. No. It was a pain. However, the game itself is quite playable even on high pings though you definitely will struggle sometimes with some things.
    On EU DC my ping is ~90 if I remember correct, much more comfortable to play. But I have an alt on JP, where the ping for is almost the same as with NA, and well, I can't say it's actually that bad to play there. Though I wasn't on serious trials on alt since it has a baby-level so... They are probably same pain as Titan was, but there are ways to work with it.
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    Colino Nyea
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Uhm, NEW ZEALAND is not Australia. It has differences in ping due to that fact. What's with people thinking New Zealand is in Australia? It's getting to be a meme at this stage.
    Yes, obviously, but most of us are making the assumptions that it is the same "continent" and since the DCs are based on "continent" then their best ping DC would likely be your best ping DC. Apparently that's not the case, which is a bummer. No one in this thread thought or implied for a minute that NZ and Australia are the same thing, btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Honestly what the Devs should have done is left the data centre where it was... hell even the NA players said the same thing....
    100% with you on that one my dude. I would have preferred to never have to leave in the first place, despite being "far" the original DC was not that bad for me and the game was certainly playable, after the move it was literally impossible to double weave. And PVP? Forget about it.
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  8. #18
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    I don't know if this will help but with PLD, requiscat is going to make the spells instant cast in ShB. Though still I assume with a limited window so may not help much.
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  9. #19
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    Inglis Eucus
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    I live in US and I get ping a 180 to 300 on NA server. But when play on JP server have only ping of 100. Makes no since to me why get better ping in country across the ocean. Than one 3 states away.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Yes, obviously, but most of us are making the assumptions that it is the same "continent" and since the DCs are based on "continent" then their best ping DC would likely be your best ping DC. Apparently that's not the case, which is a bummer. No one in this thread thought or implied for a minute that NZ and Australia are the same thing, btw.
    Yeah, that would technically be the wrong assumption, because New Zealand is actually on a different continent to Australia, known as "Zealandia".
    It's kinda like saying Russia and the States are on the same "continent", just because they are close.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-30-2019 at 03:52 AM.

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