Thread: Healers in 5.0

Originally Posted by Raiya

All I can say right now is Im really not happy with the removal of Aero III from WHM and Miasma and Miasma 2 from SCH I liked having a DOT dps action. Whats more annoying is now we have miasma 1 and 3 on smn but no 2, its asthetically odd to me.

Problem I see with healers is they made their offensive actions too bland now and I dont really like it very much.

WHM get Dia to replace aero III for 720 potency over 30 seconds and Glare for Stone
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Originally Posted by EvalcieChevallier

WHM get Dia to replace aero III for 720 potency over 30 seconds and Glare for Stone
link here

Thats what makes me wonder. Was it so hard to split that Dia dot into 2 dot skills and balance them like that? Was it so difficult for bad players to throw two dots on a mob?

While Im ok with WHM changes, why remove dots from Scholar? Because of lore and sharing them with Summoner? Why not just simply make new dots and rename them? Because Scholar would be to strong DPS-wise than other healers? Just adjust the potencies and leave it like that.

I just simply dont understand the "throw 1 dot, spam your 250 potency magic" thing.

Originally Posted by EvalcieChevallier

WHM get Dia to replace aero III for 720 potency over 30 seconds and Glare for Stone
link here

Dia is replacing Aero II not III the aoe version which is been deleted needlessly.

I'll be honest these changes are pretty much being universally panned across the board atm across multiple forums, WHM changes arent all bad and is the job getting seemingly getting off the least worst here but arent all great either, I seriously wish the Dev team were to reverse the decision to remove Aero III altogether, its been there since Heavensward and there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with it expecially since WHM has the least amount of button bloat out of the 3 healers as it is. AST changes are bad they're removing the DPS from Lord of Crowns and AST already had bare minimum as it is, the card changes are far from perfect I'm not disagreeing with the need to change them but the current version is nearly a coin toss as others have noted there's barely any difference between them. As for SCH it's literally "here we go again" with them they've gutted their entire offensive setup entirely, the only thing SCH really lacked compared to the other 2 jobs was a proper GCD AOE heal like Medica (the current one only had a barrier effect which when having 2 SCH was conflicting which wouldn't have happened if SCH had their own medica). I really wish the dev team would reverse the miasma changes entirely, take miasma from SMN altogether and give them something else to replace it and make Miasma SCH exclusive it's bad enough were losing miasma II AGAIN (It would have been better for SCH to keep Miasma II and have it upgrade to Art of War instead with better pot) but now we have a hole where Miasma 1 and 3 is on SMN and it looks wrong. Taking Bane is really bad as well, taking Shadowflare is also awful and it was already nerfed from a recastable spell to a oGCD spell making it impossible to move it.

Honestly the problem with the balancing of healers is there doesnt need to be complete balancing, WHM should be the best Burst heal, AST should be the best Buff healer and SCH should be the best DPS healer, but instead of balancing the jobs they've literally gutted them entirely that they might as well nearly be all glamours of one another and they've destroyed their offensive capabilities by making them all 3 buttons on all 3 that's what's upsetting so many people.

I've leveled the healers to max level each expansion, done the quests and raided with them and alognside them.

These are my two cents regarding their treatment in the new expansion:

-WHM: White Mage has always been the simplest yet the most effective- Their class lore is about nature, healing and growth. This is mirrored in their abilities that allow them to restore health reactively by slowly building up stacks of healing. They are potent yet lack any utility besides healing and damage. As per 5.0 (and in 3.0) basically, this is no longer consistent.
-SCH: As counterpart of the White Mage, Scholars had the unique ability to prevent damage. They had unique mitigation skills in Sacred Soil, Adloquium and Fey Covenant. Scholar are by lore, Tactitians. They support their troups through careful observation, positioning and damage prevention. They are a preventive healer, reducing damage before it can even be dealt. Their fairy was charged of the reactive healing, topping off wounded allies that the shields could not protect compeltely. (In 3.0 this was somewhat consistent, though AST resulted to be a better mitigator.) In 5.0 Scholar seems to have shifted to a more reactive healer, being given a lot of regens and heals while reducing her shielding capabilities in terms of potency.
-AST: The one that threw the other two healers off balance. WHM and SCH completed each other in terms of gameplay- Astrologians had their own unique flavour with the cards. They were the one that had the least in terms of damage spells, but could supply that with its potent party buffs with her cards. The problem was, she could play both as a reactive and preventive healer. In fact, it seemed to dethrone SCH as a preventive healer with higher potencies on her shields. AST had its own gimick in the buffing aspect yet it was decided to have healing still be linked to shields or regens.

TL;DR :Basically, with the addition of Astrologian (who lacked its own healing identity) a problem arose: Identity vs Balance- How to make healers different yet equally as capable. In my opinion Astrologian still lacks its own healing identity and 5.0 has not yet solved that problem, if anything it has made it worse by removing healing uniqueness and simply stapling gimmicks ontop of the healers.