Thread: PLD 5.0 Thread

I see some threads talking about WAR and DRK, didn't see any active ones for PLD, so figured I'd just make one.

A youtube link for reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8YJ0wUjM90&t=237s

I was cautiously optimistic after the job trailer, but seeing the changes I'm pretty excited.

Gap closer will be nice, but it looks like both parts of our rotation will get spiced up. The sword oath stacks to spend on atonement after we get goring blade up. And then adding an aoe version of holy spirit, and a big finisher for the end of requiscat for st or aoe, on top of requiscat making the spells instant? Yes please. I feel this will make the spell part of the rotation a lot more fun and a little, if only slightly, more involved by swapping to the finisher for the last spell.

For aoe in particular this will be great, no more will dungeon pulls just be 'CoS, flash a few times, spam total eclipse.' This will make those dungoen roulettes much less dull. It's almost a little sad to say goodbye to flash after all this time, but the new combo off of total eclipse and working aoe into our requiscat phase more than makes up for it.

The shelltron change will make it more useful for aoe situations or for multi hit tankbusters like Shinryu's ank morn.

All in all I feel like this is a good evolution of the job without having to give it a huge overhaul that feels completely different.

Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

As far as I can make out it's going to be something like:

Paladin AOE Rotation: Requiescat -> Holy Circle x4 -> Confiteor -> Fight or Flight -> (Total Eclipse-> Prominance) until full MP -> Repeat
Paladin ST Rotation?: Fast Blade -> Riot Blade -> Fight or Flight -> Goring Blade -> Royal Authority Combo -> Atonement x3 -> Goring Blade Combo -> Requiescat -> Holy Spirit x4 -> Confiteor -> Goring Blade Combo -> Royal Authority Combo -> Atonement x3

The biggest thing is how our AOE rotation will... actually be a rotation similar to the one we currently get on single targets.

The only thing that might affect that is a trait which further increases Riot Blade's MP restoration.

Yeah. The aoe changes will be great for dungeons. Not super complicated but more involved than 'circle of scorn, flash as much as you need to keep enmity over the dps you have, spam total eclipse.'

Sheltorn makes sense now! YES
I've been saying that only guaranteeing one block is dumb, because there's always a decent chance you would have blocked that same attack natively anyways. No, with it guaranteeing blocks for 6 seconds total, it's actually worthy of being a major gauge spender

Im enthralled with these changes. My main just got alot more interesting now.

Originally Posted by Big-Isaac

Sheltorn makes sense now! YES ... it's actually worthy of being a major gauge spender

I've always used Sheltron to mitigate tankbusters in Stormblood.

It helped regen MP to fix my rotation if I had to clemency someone.

It helped me regen MP to Holy Spirit when I was out of TP from AOEing.

It's always been useful from my perspective, but now has the additional role of being useful for multi-hit tankbusters. It'll act as a more effective version of Bulwark during big pulls.

Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I've always used Sheltron to mitigate tankbusters in Stormblood.

Yes.

But the dink of a boss sometimes weaves an auto attack in before a tank busting mechanic lands, like Chaos and Orbs.

Originally Posted by Galactimus

Unsure (Question):
How do we generate Oath Gauge now? With Cover, Intervention, and Sheltron (no Bulwark) we will be spending Gauge more often. With Shield Oath and Sword Oath gone I'm not sure what sort of gauge fill we are working with now.

PLD gets a new trait named oath mastery that increase you gauge by 5 every time you dealt a auto attack ^^

Originally Posted by shao32

PLD gets a new trait named oath mastery that increase you gauge by 5 every time you dealt a auto attack ^^

Thanks, I was wondering about that too and missed that detail earlier.

We don't get to keep gaining oath gauge when spamming holy spirit too do we? Would be neat if we got a slow steady fill from auto attacks and a burst fill during requiscat phase. But maybe both is a bit much since the latter requirse shield oath now.