Shadowbringer: Summoner Changes Discussion

[Bugagai]

I will say very briefly. New battle system fucking shit.

[Gallus]

Well, so far I like it, I'm 75, it seems like there's a lot of OGCDs to keep track of and it's a bit overwhelming, but it's a matter of practice I suppose. It doesn't feel easy that's for sure, and I can imagine the amount of OGCD weaving in the level 80 phase phoenix being pretty nasty.

Please stop with the "my pet can no longer die so this does not feel like a pet class anymore", this reasoning is very poor and a very own personal thing of yours. I have no desire to keep spamming sustains into a pet while the BLM next to me is blowing up the boss with Fire IVs. If you are gonna complain about something please try to be a bit coherent.

[Shurrikhan]

I have no desire to keep spamming sustains into a pet while the BLM next to me is blowing up the boss with Fire IVs.

Except pets already took some 80% decreased damage from AoEs, which is all the damage they could take without tanking. They could have simply increased that to 100% or offered increased natural HP regen and maintained the ability to tank with one's pet. Having a pet which can tank does not have to equate to lost uptime in any way. It only does so if made specifically poorly.

[JarenCorax]

Please stop with the "my pet can no longer die so this does not feel like a pet class anymore", this reasoning is very poor and a very own personal thing of yours. I have no desire to keep spamming sustains into a pet while the BLM next to me is blowing up the boss with Fire IVs. If you are gonna complain about something please try to be a bit coherent.

It's not a question of reasoning, especially when the word "feel" is quite pointedly used, because guess what: It is a personal opinion.

[Gallus]

It's not a question of reasoning, especially when the word "feel" is quite pointedly used, because guess what: It is a personal opinion.

Yeah whatever let's get into a manners debate that is sure as hell very interesting in a SMN's thread. My point is you want something that does not make any sense. No commited DPS wants to spend their time throwing heals to a pet while the other DPS classes can DPS just fine. If you want to babysit people you can always play a healer and if you don't care about doing subpar DPS you can always be an Ice Black mage.
SMN right now is easily one of the hardest jobs to be good at. The amount of OGCDs and things to keep track of is very overwhelming. You want to add your pet dying and sustain so that you can feel a real SMN? Thanks but no, and I really hope SE keeps the egis untargeteable and fixes the real issues here like egi assault spell queueing like @Taranok has well spotted or Devotion being tied to your pet for no reason.