Shadowbringer: Summoner Changes Discussion

[Len]

The real level 80 ability is Demi-phoenix and Scarlet Flame / Revelation. Everlasting Flight is just "added flavour"

We shouldn't have useless fluff abilities simply for "added flavour." Either buff the potency or change the effect.

And again, I'd like to point out for anyone that's forgotten: Summoners aren't healers. We're not going to be timing our Firebird Trances around party-wide damage.

[Haxaan]

We shouldn't have useless fluff abilities simply for "added flavour." Either buff the potency or change the effect.

And again, I'd like to point out for anyone that's forgotten: Summoners aren't healers. We're not going to be timing our Firebird Trances around party-wide damage.

Summoners aren't healers but they have usually always had some form of heal, plus Phoenix has ALWAYS had a healing effect (though usually tied to their resurrection ability), so flavour or not it would be stupid to make that disconnect. Since healers have been changed so drastically to be "more pure heal" I highly doubt Summoners will ever be asked to time their Firebird Trance around heal checks. All numbers are mostly placeholders right now and could be drastically changed before launch. Let's wait and see how it actually plays, I'm pretty excited for Phoenix and am 100% ok with the heal effect. Let's face it, we still have Physick, so for Phoenix to have a heal isn't really that far of a stretch.

[Mansion]

And again, I'd like to point out for anyone that's forgotten: Summoners aren't healers. We're not going to be timing our Firebird Trances around party-wide damage.

Did anyone even suggest that? Given the potency, no healer is going to give Everlasting Flight any form of credit in their healing rotation.
Especially now that our Trances are the new aetherflow : we must use them every minute. We're not going to delay it for the healing effect.

I agree that it's pointless as it is presented for now, but I'd rather see more fuss here about how unforgiving Trances timing is rather than complaining on Everlasting Flight