Shadowbringer: Summoner Changes Discussion

[Elenoe]

Roughly 45s on, 45s off?

they share CD, don't they? So it sounds more like

15s DWT -> 20s Bahamut -> 25s fillers -> 20s FBT+Phoenix -> 40s fillers

[Jandor]

they share CD, don't they? So it sounds more like

15s DWT -> 20s Bahamut -> 25s fillers -> 20s FBT+Phoenix -> 40s fillers

But it sounds like demis (Bahamut at least) are somewhat weaker now if "wyrmwaves" are on GCD (which may or may not be affected by FBT as it goes along with phoenix - not sure if FBT is 15s or 20s at that time).

15s DWT - 45s gap where you can slot 20s of Bahamut - 15s Phoenix - 45s gap where you can't slot 20s of Bahamut.

That 2nd gap might be a bit dull tbh. Don't mind me guys, just casting 18x ruins back to back.

[Gallus]

Phoenix lasts 20 seconds, not 15, there's an enhanced firebird trance trait that increases 5 seconds on your phoenix.

[Elenoe]

I know, and I'm a bit afraid of consequences:

there is no way demis can be aligned (bahamut cannot go on DWT while phoenix has to) so the "buff windows" (devotion included) as well as 4 festers/aetherflows (every 60s) won't align with them well.

One of them will only have 2 festers + energy drain for weaving. (The other can have all 4 festers + energy drain.)

[Gallus]

You don't care about aligning anything now on your bahamut/phoenix phases because the demis don't akh morn/scarlet flame on OGCDs, only GCDs. Might as well burn your aetherflow stacks the very moment you have them now, no reason to delay anything.