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  1. 05-29-2019 11:31 PM #1
    Truen
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    To healers upset with the 5.0 changes across all the various jobs

    In this coming expansion we not only didn't get a new healer, but the healers we already had were ruined. It's such a let-down, I get it. But, no one is forcing us to play these jobs.

    The only way to show the developers, who judging by the changes almost certainly don't play healers, how bad these adjustments are is to avoid the healing jobs entirely and play something else.

    Let the ques for duty rotations go upwards to 45 mins or longer for tanks and dps; then they'll understand the homogenization they've forced onto the healer roles is boring and unwanted.
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  2. 05-29-2019 11:32 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    In this coming expansion we not only didn't get a new healer, but the healers we already had were ruined. It's such a let-down, I get it. But, no one is forcing us to play these jobs.

    The only way to show the developers, who judging by the changes almost certainly don't play healers, will understand how bad these adjustments are is to avoid the healing jobs entirely and play something else.

    Let the ques for duty rotations go upwards to 45 mins or longer for tanks and dps; then they'll understand the homogenization they've forced onto the healer roles is boring and unwanted.
    That's why trusts were introduced. They knew tanks and healers (especially healers) were going to be in extremely short supply.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  3. 05-30-2019 12:10 AM #3
    EaMett
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    and a lot of changes were made so that trust AI could actually work. Instead of focusing on player gameplay.

    The other option is to solo heal as meta. I've said this before but we should push for this since we now have it really easy on healing.
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  4. 05-30-2019 02:28 AM #4
    DemonicNeko
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    Are healers really bad in ShadowBringers? Is their a way they can revert these changes before the expantion goes live or at less remove some of the damage they have done?
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  5. 05-30-2019 02:32 AM #5
    Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicNeko View Post
    Are healers really bad in ShadowBringers? Is their a way they can revert these changes before the expantion goes live or at less remove some of the damage they have done?
    Well that kind of depends. Healing itself hasn't changed drastically - some notable tweaks but all the staples are still there. SCH DPS rotation was homogenized to essentially copy-paste AST/WHM rotation, so a lot of people that liked a more complex rotation are pretty disappointed about that. WHM still lacks raid utility so a lot of people are disappointed about that too.
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  6. 05-30-2019 02:34 AM #6
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    OP: "Even though I've never played healers in this expansion. I'm going to say that they are all utterly ruined because of some arbitrary reasons so let's scale a massive boycott."

    Or you know...Actually try them out first (Or hell, even explain your reasoning) instead of complaining like so many others and not be afraid of change. Because White Mage just flat out got a buff so I don't know what you're smoking.

    And we don't need a 4th healer. Stop complaining about that. It's annoying.
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  7. 05-30-2019 02:34 AM #7
    EaMett
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicNeko View Post
    Are healers really bad in ShadowBringers? Is their a way they can revert these changes before the expantion goes live or at less remove some of the damage they have done?
    Objectively AST for the most part is ok. I'm sure players have a few grievances as to the dumbing down but at least the changes line up with some of the goals SE had set forward (to make utility less important)
    WHM is in the exact same spot (roughly) when there were a few tweaks that could've made it so much nicer to play and really not affect balance so much.
    SCH got slashed to pieces. The pet change will never be reverted so it's something SCH will have to live with but hopefully the gutting of DPS options can be reverted before the expansion or first raiding tier hit.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 05-30-2019 at 02:38 AM.
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  8. 05-30-2019 02:35 AM #8
    Maltothoris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Well that kind of depends. Healing itself hasn't changed drastically - some notable tweaks but all the staples are still there. SCH DPS rotation was homogenized to essentially copy-paste AST/WHM rotation, so a lot of people that liked a more complex rotation are pretty disappointed about that. WHM still lacks raid utility so a lot of people are disappointed about that too.
    There is also the fact the cards were also drastically changed to be more or less the same thing just based on class and role getting rid of the complexity.
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  9. 05-30-2019 02:39 AM #9
    MajinkenSouga
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    SCH DPS rotation was homogenized to essentially copy-paste AST/WHM rotation, so a lot of people that liked a more complex rotation are pretty disappointed about that.
    SCH had a complex rotation? lol
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  10. 05-30-2019 03:41 AM #10
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    Well I'm sure gonna enjoy my instant ques on my healer then.
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