Scholar 5.0 Discussion

[Keihara]

I would like to get our dps kit back and actually have an interesting rotation during downtime because in my opinion they failed in trying to get healers to heal only or a lot less. I’ve seen little to know difference so far in the amount of downtime I have to dps now than I used to before Shadowbringers. It also feels off putting when no matter how well I manage my cooldowns and dps between healing I can never achieve the damage being put out by the healer also healing slightly more than me. I don’t think or want Whm to be nerfed if possible but they can’t be the best at healing and damage. They either need to be put into one of the Niches or have the other healers brought up to match them respectively

[van_arn]

Obviously the healer team is made up of people like Bobby McNobuttons, the all-star roulette healer that only casts physick.

[DoctorHam]

I don't main Scholar anymore, and maybe that revokes my right to really complain about it. But I mained scholar from 2.0 all the way until just before 4.2, when the weekly lockout on O4S was removed, at which point I traded roles with the person that had been our main tank for all that time. He was on the verge of qutting, and honestly I was feeling pretty bored with nothing changing in my main job in so long that I was glad for the swap. I still liked to go into 4man dungeons on healer to mix it up, and I always defaulted to my Scholar. But with the classes as they are, I don't think I'll ever touch my healers again unless I absolutely have to. I've never posted on the OF before but I'm doing so now in the hopes that SE will hear us better here than on reddit - please do not let this be the state of healers in FF14 going forward. Scholar, Astrologian, and White Mage all look utterly miserable to play, and especially boring in dungeon content. I don't know if any of the influencers brought in for the media tour were healer mains, but I hope so, and I hope they got to voice concerns as well.

[Truen]

I don't main Scholar anymore, and maybe that revokes my right to really complain about it. But I mained scholar from 2.0 all the way until just before 4.2, when the weekly lockout on O4S was removed, at which point I traded roles with the person that had been our main tank for all that time. He was on the verge of qutting, and honestly I was feeling pretty bored with nothing changing in my main job in so long that I was glad for the swap. I still liked to go into 4man dungeons on healer to mix it up, and I always defaulted to my Scholar. But with the classes as they are, I don't think I'll ever touch my healers again unless I absolutely have to. I've never posted on the OF before but I'm doing so now in the hopes that SE will hear us better here than on reddit - please do not let this be the state of healers in FF14 going forward. Scholar, Astrologian, and White Mage all look utterly miserable to play, and especially boring in dungeon content. I don't know if any of the influencers brought in for the media tour were healer mains, but I hope so, and I hope they got to voice concerns as well.

Exactly. I made a forum account when these changes were announced out of shock and saddness as well. But, I don't think the devs care honestly. They're mute on this from what I can tell. They talk at us, not with us regarding these changes.

[EthanMoonkin]

I hope everyone will continue to write on the forums about this absolute garbage of a "balancing" that SCH received. More like a push in the dirt. Hopefully they will patch it as soon as possible once they realize how bad it is. Quitting SCH until it is decent again and moving to a dps class. Also agree that the balancing team for healers made huge mistakes and I honestly can't believe this got through to the final version. WHM still doesnt have a party buff, so if they get around to fixing scholar it will be be the same old SCH/AST meta. So much disappointment...

[Starflake]

SCH appears to be a very strong class still. The only thing that's bad is the simplified DPS rotation. The MP cost for Art of War probably too high, give us back Shadowflare like it was in Heavensward and I'll be happy.

[Deceptus]

SCH appears to be a very strong class still. The only thing that's bad is the simplified DPS rotation. The MP cost for Art of War probably too high, give us back Shadowflare like it was in Heavensward and I'll be happy.

Oddly the tooltip on Sacred Soil says, "cannot be used with any other area-creating actions" when they removed the only other area creating action (ShadowFlare).

A 10 potency gain on Bio II > Biolysis. 10 dang potency increase. . .

Stuff like that shows me whoever is designing the healer jobs is incompetent or just really really doesn't know what they're doing.

[EaMett]

SCH appears to be a very strong class still. The only thing that's bad is the simplified DPS rotation. The MP cost for Art of War probably too high, give us back Shadowflare like it was in Heavensward and I'll be happy.

erm SCH lost skills that account for ~30% of it's dps. I have yet to see anything that could make up for that. CS got nerfed as well (although that was expected)

[Anselmet]

I'm at a loss as to why we lost energy drain and then gained all these healing options that are not effected by aether stacks. Do we really need that much healing potency now? My main concern is that if standard content isn't buffed up then I'm just gonna be a supped up whm with shields and a fairy. I know it sounds weird, but I am truly at a loss as to why they gave us so much healing potential. What am I gonna do with all these extra stacks? Do I just overheal so I get my gauge up quicker? Which if that's the case... did se not learn from sb lily system to not do that? Or am I missing something. Is there a new skill that is linked to aether stacks? I know there is one that negates them which do we really need that?

[EaMett]

I'm at a loss as to why we lost energy drain and then gained all these healing options that are not effected by aether stacks. Do we really need that much healing potency now? My main concern is that if standard content isn't buffed up then I'm just gonna be a supped up whm with shields and a fairy. I know it sounds weird, but I am truly at a loss as to why they gave us so much healing potential. What am I gonna do with all these extra stacks? Do I just overheal so I get my gauge up quicker? Which if that's the case... did se not learn from sb lily system to not do that? Or am I missing something. Is there a new skill that is linked to aether stacks? I know there is one that negates them which do we really need that?

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