Thread: Scholar 5.0 Discussion

Originally Posted by LeonTrifang

Not much is changing. I like that we are all becoming pure healers. I do hate that we are losing energy drain, and the ability to tell our fairy who to heal, but we aren’t losing anything crucial to our kit. Except energy drain..... which I really hope we get back lol

Bane is absolutely more valuable than an ED on even just two targets. You’re saving two GCDs. That’s equal to two broils. Good lord.

Anyway the fundamental advantage to SCH has always been that the fairy handles some healing for you, so you can afford a more complex dps rotation. This does not mean explicitly more damage, as they were outdamaged by AST, but a more unique and interesting playstyle.

If you take away the kit the fairy becomes painful to have around. Instead of being a cool tool that permits you to have a different toolkit from other healers, it becomes a crutch that does 50% of your job for you. The fairy will make SCH even more boring than WHM, because most of the time you won’t even need to heal, freeing your time up to mash the broil button for the entire encounter.

If you wanted an ultra-simplistic WoW-like experience in Stormblood you could play WHM, with one damage spell, one oGCD burst, and two dots, compared to SCH’s two damage spells, three dots, and four oGCDs! Now BOTH are even more simplistic than Stormblood WHM, with no major decreases in healing potencies.

It’s homogenizing the healers for no reason.

Originally Posted by Ilenya

Waste...An Aetherflow charge? How is Bane a waste?

Also, glancing at the posted Letter now that it is up, I do wonder if SE had any idea how SCH played.

Scholar
Most of scholar's capabilities weren't significantly changed. However, its shield-based playstyle has been shifted to include more direct healing, and makes it easier for scholar to focus more on a heal-oriented playstyle. Instead of focusing on dealing damage while relying on the other healer to provide healing, both healers will be able support each other in the healing role. Additionally, Embrace can no longer be used repetitively, as we’d like to move away from using macros to repeatedly cast Embrace.

It's like they forgot how many OCDs SCH had to heal with or something...

Oh my god, please someone help the devs with SCH. I did not read it yet but seeing it hear...did SE really say that about SCH? Did they really...?
I do not even have words for that oh...They don't know how Healers are being played even in mediocre content right? Not even low content I guess..
And btw, why do they always mention that people ONLY used Macros for Embrace? My brother binded the Pet Action Bar and used Embrace there..The Macro is not as good as binding too, so how could they even only think about that?

I feel like crying after reading that...first they make a joke on the Fan Festival in France that GNB could be a healer..haha so funny, being a healer is funny in FFXIV...then they say that DNC is no Healer because they want to "balance" the existing ones, now they "balanced"(haha) they existing ones and say things like that? Oh good lord why. Aren't they the devs? Shouldn't they know about the jobs they designed?

I really really hope they change this or atleast give the community the chance to talk to the healer devs for once!!

Originally Posted by Yulja

Oh my god, please someone help the devs with SCH. I did not read it yet but seeing it hear...did SE really say that about SCH? Did they really...?
I do not even have words for that oh...They don't know how Healers are being played even in mediocre content right? Not even low content I guess..
And btw, why do they always mention that people ONLY used Macros for Embrace? My brother binded the Pet Action Bar and used Embrace there..The Macro is not as good as binding too, so how could they even only think about that?

I feel like crying after reading that...first they make a joke on the Fan Festival in France that GNB could be a healer..haha so funny, being a healer is funny in FFXIV...then they say that DNC is no Healer because they want to "balance" the existing ones, now they "balanced"(haha) they existing ones and say things like that? Oh good lord why. Aren't they the devs? Shouldn't they know about the jobs they designed?

I really really hope they change this or atleast give the community the chance to talk to the healer devs for once!!

This is the change that finally pushed me away from the game. I have less than 2 weeks on my script before it expires. I'm just glad I was able to cancel my pre-order for the xpac from Gamestop before that money was lost too. These changes made me realize I can't trust SE to value the huge amount of time I invest into their game playing various jobs and classes. They'll shred them at will, and that's just not something I can support.

RIP SCH. You're a 1-dimensional, boring healbot now. All traces of diversity between you and the other jobs are fleeting and your dps kit is now so dumb a caveman can do it, shout-out to Geico.

SCH was my go to healer. The skills that they chose to remove are some of the most integral parts to scholars identity and what made scholar satisfying to play. I really hope they reconsider these changes...also art of war is fugly

Bringing back a dead thread due to it having the appropriate title. I'm sincerely hoping that all angry schs can decide to stay on one thread this time. That being said, is it time to riot again? Potency and mana costs seem to be the same as the media tour. So are we ready to jump ship now? Burn down the forums again? What's the mood?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/
I noticed that there’s basically no cost to fairy spells now, as the recast time is gone. So rather than strategically timing these, I guess it’s a case of keeping them up the entire time going forwards. Curious to hear what others think.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

Changes from the media tour:

Consolation 150>300 pot

Fey Blessing 250>350 pot

Indom 500>400 pot

SSoil: 20% chance for free succor removed

Physick is now a 1.5s cast (great for weaving if we had anything to weave with. . . )

Also something to note:





Before, SCH pets weren't affected by Maim and Mend. Now they are. We'll see how that plays with the numbers

Hey look, we got another weaving tool, great for commanding your fairy or doing a lustrate when you have a squishy tank.

Originally Posted by Brandedblade

Hey look, we got another weaving tool, great for commanding your fairy or doing a lustrate when you have a squishy tank.

If you're using Physick, you've already hit rock bottom.

Also we had an amazing thing for weaving already. They were called Pet Skills. You could use them while you were casting anything.