Thread: Scholar 5.0 Discussion

Originally Posted by Ilenya

I remembered it used to be Parry, but I thought they had changed Tenacity itself so that it had some value after it was changed to Tenacity. I guess I was wrong.

I believe tenacity early in the patch cycle was seen as okayish, particularly for prog, but as soon as crit/det/dhit started scaling up, its relevance waned massively. But really, all secondary stats make such a little difference overall that it's kind of a pathetic joke, as this post shows. I've never really seen the point of them beyond worthless min-maxing (and yes, I still meld because it's what is expected of me, regardless of my personal thoughts about secondary stats being garbage).

Originally Posted by Freerider

Scholar has mana issues but it isn't that bad. Why is everyone being so over dramatic? If they want to make us balanced they just need to lower the cost of our skills a tad and give us an aether dump. And Aetherflow outside of combat but I feel like that one they are gonna stand firm on to keep us from getting extra stacks in a fight.

Because "MUH DEEPS" would be my guess. The changes to SCH are nowhere near as bad as people are making them out to be. My WHM friend is reporting the same with WHM, and my AST friend, while disappointed in the cards, says the job isn't that different from before.

What possible benefit is there in not allowing me to refresh Aetherflow between pulls!?!? And it takes a full second before the game realizes that combat has started, so if it was still on cooldown at the end of the last pull, and I was out of stacks, I can't open with an aetherflow spell. How is this better!?!?

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Because "MUH DEEPS" would be my guess. The changes to SCH are nowhere near as bad as people are making them out to be. My WHM friend is reporting the same with WHM, and my AST friend, while disappointed in the cards, says the job isn't that different from before.

Yeah, no. it's definitely not a question of "muh deps". and yes, sch's change are bad. really bad. a lot of peoples already explained why.

Came back to give my 2 cents now after getting my hands on SCH after the ShB changes. Wow did they absolutely kill it. Absolute clunk, no fun no damage, and the fairy isn’t even targetable in the party list nor can it even be prompted through macros to use Embrace on the same target as me. Really the epitome of fun now Yoshida, thanks.

They need to give us back at least energy drain and the ability to use aetherflow outside of combat asap cuz rn the class plays like a hot neutered mess. I’ve seen numerous more ASTs in DF than I have SCHs and seeing how badly AST was also handled that’s really saying something.

The lack of energy drain makes it super unpleasant to play (as mentioned by everyone else). I feel like if they don't want SCH to sacrifice stacks to dps, why not make dps linked to heals in some way? Like critting a heal allows you to do some sort of dps thing. Really, SCH needs SOMETHING to give it its own identity and make it fun to play.

Originally Posted by Zweiss

Came back to give my 2 cents now after getting my hands on SCH after the ShB changes. Wow did they absolutely kill it. Absolute clunk, no fun no damage, and the fairy isn’t even targetable in the party list nor can it even be prompted through macros to use Embrace on the same target as me. Really the epitome of fun now Yoshida, thanks.

They need to give us back at least energy drain and the ability to use aetherflow outside of combat asap cuz rn the class plays like a hot neutered mess. I’ve seen numerous more ASTs in DF than I have SCHs and seeing how badly AST was also handled that’s really saying something.

The majority of my cohealers have actually been SCHs. I was just assuming that it was SMNs who wanted a faster queue. But I haven't seen many ASTs myself.

It saddens me that people are leveling SCH to 80 and are trying to make it work. You can try all you want, the job is dead. And don't even think about trying to do savage raids when the get released.