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  1. #21
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Meditation cooldown is still 60 seconds.
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  2. #22
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I can't see the point of Merciful Eyes now the emnity reduction is gone. It's barely a 3k heal at endgame.

    What does the "effect cannot be stacked with Higanbana" mean on Kaeshi: Higanbana?
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  3. #23
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I can't see the point of Merciful Eyes now the emnity reduction is gone. It's barely a 3k heal at endgame.

    What does the "effect cannot be stacked with Higanbana" mean on Kaeshi: Higanbana?
    You can't have both the Higanbana DoT and the Kaeshi: Higanbana DoT going at the same time. The latter overwrites the former.
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  4. #24
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    But it's the same potency as Kaiten-Higanbana and Tsubame only repeats the previously executed Iaijutsu. Why would you ever overwrite your DoT with the same potency DoT?

    I'm probably missing something obvious since it's late but what's the advantage over double Midare or Goken?
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  5. #25
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    guardin's Avatar
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    Shaiden Nightfall
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 90
    sam is my third fav after monk and ninja. it was great, not as great as monk but am ok with the changes. just wish they added some new animation colors or something when they buffed them
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  6. #26
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Senei would have been a better choice for lvl 80 skill
    But i guess it doesn't really matter when you get it

    Shoha is just very odd skill maybe if it kept shinpu and jifu effects for down time during boss so you could just Midare right away when boss get back without worry of no buffs

    Its also has basically no CD so I guess we are expected to use it alot?
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  7. #27
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    AnnaMolly's Avatar
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    Anna Ruthven
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Senei would have been a better choice for lvl 80 skill
    But i guess it doesn't really matter when you get it

    Shoha is just very odd skill maybe if it kept shinpu and jifu effects for down time during boss so you could just Midare right away when boss get back without worry of no buffs

    Its also has basically no CD so I guess we are expected to use it alot?
    It would effectively have whatever CD Meditate has because it's completely worthless without it and with current potencies there will usually be something better unless it's 5 stacks.

    It's basically SAM's Plenary Indulgence, it's raid only and at launch it will likely be used for one mechanic in one fight till it gets tweaked....possibly for the worse.

    For those who don't know; Plenary Indulgence is a 150/300/450 potency heal that goes off on anyone with 1-3 Confession stacks. Confession is applied via AoE heals, Medica, Medica II, and/or Cure III. Confession effect lasts 30 seconds. This means the situation where you'd use this at max is where you'd somehow need to top everyone off but three Medicas didn't do it. So basically a mechanic like where Alte Roite drops everyone to 1 HP while your co-healer is AFK or DPSing or something.

    My point is, it won't be used outside of Raids. Being that I don't raid, my PIs are usually 1 stackers because it's an instant heal that lets me...throw more rocks.
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    Last edited by AnnaMolly; 05-30-2019 at 09:41 PM.

  8. #28
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    Lilyth's Avatar
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I only hate the fact they that they removed Hagakure. THE main flavor of the job was to balance your hagakure usage with meikyo and bana, rewarding the player for keeping those 3 aligned.

    Now with Haga gone, it all crumbles back to a lvl 60 rotation. Yes, same old level 60 rotation.

    Get 3 sens, Midare, repeat. No engaging decision-making, no rewarding sen usage. No fun.
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  9. #29
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    Truen's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Brunox Sky
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Looks like we got some new toys to make us bigger killing machines.

    First, no more TP abilities. So AoE until you're blue in the face!

    AoEs now extend Jinpu and Shifu buffs, which is awesome, though they got a little potency nerf.

    All our threat reducers are gone. Prepare to get eaten unless tank aggro is changed greatly.

    Hagakure gone and replaced with a 60 second cooldown for 50 Kenki without needing Sen.

    Enhanced Iajutsu at 72 that lowers cast time down to 1.3 sec.

    New skill that let's us repeat the last Iajutsu with enhanced potency (doesn't stack with Kaiten). More hitting like a truck. 60 second cooldown.

    Senei, single target Guren.

    78 nets us a 2% buff to jinpu and shifu buffs.

    80 is Shoha, which no one has really gotten a chance to test yet, but seems extremely underwhelming for a level 80 ability, unless Meditate is changing as well.

    Over all, I like the new stuff. Just hope theres more to Shoha than something to be used during downtime for a minor amount of extra damage.


    SAM does look fun. I'm joining the ranks from that of a Scholar and am having fun moving through Heavensward content with my SAM now. Thanks to the OP for the compilation of new additions and changes to the class.
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  10. #30
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    Anna Ruthven
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    SAM does look fun. I'm joining the ranks from that of a Scholar and am having fun moving through Heavensward content with my SAM now. Thanks to the OP for the compilation of new additions and changes to the class.
    Healer main, mage-only who shunned melee after 2.0 MNK. I love SAM, it's fun!
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