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    Personally, I'm not sure why you aren't given Shoha at 60 when you get Meditate. I don't know what Meditate does outside of Shoha.

    It would've been cool to get that thing Hien does in Ghimlyt at lv 80 instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaMolly View Post
    It's a raid/EX only skill. I think that's what has a few of us squinting at it and asking "what?" That and the low potency. For what it is and how you use it, 500 max potency is very low.
    I assume they lowballed it to start with(or it's a bug, since the StB media tour had Flamethrower's potency listed as 6), but it still seems pretty useless. I'm not sure why they didn't do something like make Seigan a kenki spender on a cooldown and make it give Meditate stacks, considering Third Eye and its skills still just kind of exist.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I assume they lowballed it to start with(or it's a bug, since the StB media tour had Flamethrower's potency listed as 6), but it still seems pretty useless. I'm not sure why they didn't do something like make Seigan a kenki spender on a cooldown and make it give Meditate stacks, considering Third Eye and its skills still just kind of exist.
    Hopefully they raise it.

    I just hate that since I don't raid, my SAM's lv 80 skill will be 99% useless to me.

    Maybe they will change it after release once they get feedback on it.
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    Meditate still increases the kenki gauge too.

    I think shoha is an ok but not great ability. The thing that makes it not work to me is that the meditation stacks have a 30 second duration. If it was something you could build up over the course of a dungeon or out in the world (not that you get a lot of reasons to meditate while questing) and not worry about it dropping, it would be better. Basically like chakra. This could also be used to add some value to seigan and merciful eyes. Add a meditation charge when you do them, makes it feel better when you get that 3rd eye guard. But instead it's just some free damage during invuln phases, which is ok but not blowing my socks off.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Meditate still increases the kenki gauge too.

    I think shoha is an ok but not great ability. The thing that makes it not work to me is that the meditation stacks have a 30 second duration. If it was something you could build up over the course of a dungeon or out in the world (not that you get a lot of reasons to meditate while questing) and not worry about it dropping, it would be better. Basically like chakra. This could also be used to add some value to seigan and merciful eyes. Add a meditation charge when you do them, makes it feel better when you get that 3rd eye guard. But instead it's just some free damage during invuln phases, which is ok but not blowing my socks off.
    Agreed. Thing is, if you fidget or get to the safe spot during a jump just in time, you likely won't get the full effect of Shoha.
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    Elric Ashmore
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    I don't know about all this other stuff you're talking about, but I saw in the video we have like a 2 sword slash ability now...SO...I think they really need to add a wakizashi to our weapon display (like either as an additional displayed weapon once we earn that ability, a smaller version of our already equipped katana on our belt, or something). In my dreams...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    I don't know about all this other stuff you're talking about, but I saw in the video we have like a 2 sword slash ability now...SO...I think they really need to add a wakizashi to our weapon display (like either as an additional displayed weapon once we earn that ability, a smaller version of our already equipped katana on our belt, or something). In my dreams...
    We've always had one on the back of the AF chest. Hisatsu: Senei also isn't using a second katana, it's using the scabbard.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    We've always had one on the back of the AF chest. Hisatsu: Senei also isn't using a second katana, it's using the scabbard.
    Okay, been awhile since I played my character where I actually have SAM at 70 so I forgot LOL ...still leveling up this guy, should hit 70 tonight. Anyway, yeah I thought it was a second sword in the ability and it should be.
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    I guess that skill explains why many scabbards have over-the-top ornamentation; they're clubs.
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    Florence Leduc
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    from the video we get a buff for the time we spend at meditate... it have a 30 second of duration, then maybe is possible to use it in short time for build up 1 stack at the time if the fight ask us to move around a lot, since the cd on meditate is now 1 second... then is possible... but i admit the damage of this skill is really low for a soo long preparation.
    outside this the new tsubame gaeshi and hisastsu seinen look insanely good!
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