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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Samurai 5.0 Changes

    Looks like we got some new toys to make us bigger killing machines.

    First, no more TP abilities. So AoE until you're blue in the face!

    AoEs now extend Jinpu and Shifu buffs, which is awesome, though they got a little potency nerf.

    All our threat reducers are gone. Prepare to get eaten unless tank aggro is changed greatly.

    Hagakure gone and replaced with a 60 second cooldown for 50 Kenki without needing Sen.

    Enhanced Iajutsu at 72 that lowers cast time down to 1.3 sec.

    New skill that let's us repeat the last Iajutsu with enhanced potency (doesn't stack with Kaiten). More hitting like a truck. 60 second cooldown.

    Senei, single target Guren.

    78 nets us a 2% buff to jinpu and shifu buffs.

    80 is Shoha, which no one has really gotten a chance to test yet, but seems extremely underwhelming for a level 80 ability, unless Meditate is changing as well.

    Over all, I like the new stuff. Just hope theres more to Shoha than something to be used during downtime for a minor amount of extra damage.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 05-29-2019 at 11:18 PM.

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    Dusk Himmel
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    Shoha is really only think im iffy about
    Aoe extending the buffs is amazing
    very glad samurai got improved upon instead of reworked


    also Samurai got the best AF this expansion imo next to gnb
    Larryzaur did a short vid on Samurai stuff and get a closer look at the AF gear if interested

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INYhBV8qMoQ
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    Last edited by Duskane; 05-30-2019 at 12:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Shoha is really only think im iffy about
    Aoe extending the buffs is amazing
    very glad samurai got improved upon instead of reworked


    also Samurai got the best AF this expansion imo next to
    Larryzaur did a short vid on Samurai stuff and get a closer look at the AF gear if interested

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INYhBV8qMoQ
    Only thing I don't like about the AF is the mask. Will probably stick with my Jingasa.
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    here we go clear picture from gamerscape of all the skills

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    Shoha is the thing that confuses me. Like was said on gamerescape; you'll likely never use it in casual play.

    I would think Meditate would be changed somehow but apparently the only change is that it now gives meditate stacks instead of Kenki and still requires you be in combat.

    Meaning Shoha can't go into openers and if you happen to not be at the arena's safe spot during downtime, you aren't getting the full 5 meditate stacks due to timing. Seems like something they'll end up changing eventually but we'll see, I suppose.

    EDIT: 500 potency max seems low for such a situational skill.
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    Last edited by AnnaMolly; 05-30-2019 at 12:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Only thing I don't like about the AF is the mask. Will probably stick with my Jingasa.
    The mask is something that was worn by historical samurai to try and scare their enemies. I like it, if only because it lets us go full edgelord.
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    Really not sure of the point of third eye and its two moves anymore
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    I just watched MrHappy's video on SAM and it sounds like Shoha has to be used while Meditate is up...so if you build it during downtime and the mob doesn't return on top of you...it's useless.

    I could see this spawning a meme about SAMs wanting the tank to drag an enemy over to them.

    EDIT: Looks like he was mistaken.
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    Last edited by AnnaMolly; 05-30-2019 at 01:46 AM.

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    Shoha looks interesting? The problem is there is never a long enough period to justify meditate anyway set alone an attack associated with it. O well

    The new upgrade higgybanananana is going to be dope 1,400 potency. Basically I'm gonna be deleting enemies off the grid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    Shoha looks interesting? The problem is there is never a long enough period to justify meditate anyway set alone an attack associated with it. O well

    The new upgrade higgybanananana is going to be dope 1,400 potency. Basically I'm gonna be deleting enemies off the grid.
    It's a raid/EX only skill. I think that's what has a few of us squinting at it and asking "what?" That and the low potency. For what it is and how you use it, 500 max potency is very low.
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