Thread: Astrologian 5.0 Discussion

Originally Posted by Brandedblade

Yall are proving his point. Someone is always going to he displeased.

Yes, but who is displeased, why, and how many people are displeased are important.

For example, imagine 5 friends are deciding what to get for dinner. Alice, Bob, Charlie, and David wamt Thai. Emma wants pizza. Emma argues that no matter which food they get, someone will be unhappy, so they may as well get pizza. We wouldn't think Emma had much of an argument.

Similarly, according to flogs, AST use is only at about 25% of what it should be (for all healers to be equally well played), so it seems SE is making the Emmas happy and ignoring everyone else.

As another example, imagine it's just Alice and Bob. Alice wants Pizza, Bob wants Thai, but Alice wants pizza because she's alergic to nuts and she's worried she won't be able to eat any food at the Thai restaurant safely. Again, one will be unhappy regardless of the outcome, but we'd still think Alice's preference should take priority because of the reasons for it.

Similarly, many controller players report that new AST is very difficult to play well on a controller because of how often and rapidly you need to target specific party members. Even if 50% of ASTs liked new AST (which I don't believe), controller issues alone would justify another change to the card system.

Finally, imagine that Alice, Bob, and Charlie are going out for dinner, and David will be given whatever leftovers are being brought home (although he's not contributing to the cost of the meal). Alice and Bob want Thai. Charlie and David want pizza. In this situation we would think they should get Thai, because, while David is affected by the choice, he's not affected as much as Alice, Bob, and Charlie, nor is he contributing to their meal.

Similarly, many people who don't play AST seem to like the benefits they get from new AST, and while their opinions have value, they shouldn't carry as much weight as the opinions of people who feel the effect of the AST toolkit the most (the ASTs) and those who put in the work involved with the ASTs presence (again, the AST).

This situation, unlike the new AST, has nuance.