Thread: Astrologian 5.0 Discussion

Originally Posted by Suishouhime

The meta honestly doesn't touch non-Savage content at all, in the slightest.

So I wanna be clear, I'm not insisting that Savage and speed kills are a 1:1 parallel to the game as a whole. What I meant is that the perception some classes get are heavily influenced by what is popular in Savage and above. Of course there will be non meta classes being played, savage clears and speed kills account for a very small portion of the community. However that small portion has a big say in how classes are developed and balanced, that is my point. A lot of the balance changes to classes come directly from their performance in savage as that is an easy number to track what classes are performing well and which ones arent. How they approach this information and make changes accordingly varies, from quick responses like with WAR, or slow changes like SAM/BLM OR worse off with a blind eye RIP MCH/WHM.
I'm not saying your concerns are invalid, merely that they are untested as we have no idea how the raiding community will tinker with the new playstyles.

Originally Posted by SkyEdge1

However that small portion has a big say in how classes are developed and balanced, that is my point.

And, as I've been saying for the last few pages, that's the whole problem. People are hyperfocusing on a meta that will never touch ~95% of the content in FFXIV, and then removing the unique character of classes that make running ~95% of the content as that class fun. Maybe Savage will be fun for the raiding community, and it does sound like it'll be a fun streamline for the people who're just interested in optimising their runs for FFLogs, but what about everyone who doesn't raid? What about the players who just want to do the regular Duty Finder stuff, and have now found that the main feature of their favourite class has been gutted, for no reason other than some ~1% of the community wants to do content a few minutes faster?