Thread: Astrologian 5.0 Discussion

Originally Posted by Sapphires

I'm shocked at how much SCH and AST are now dumbed down and just a dull mess to play.

I actually ended up liking SCH for EX fights and big pulls in dungeons. Pretty fun to play. AST however...

I have never mashed Benefic 2 so hard in my life when I go dungeons and do big pulls. So SE can AST's Gravity apply Slow on the monsters like Arm's Length? That would be cool.

Originally Posted by Suishouhime

A lot of the reworks that still include different effects for the cards sound perfectly playable to me, but, if I'm honest, I would just like the old system back.

I enjoyed the flexibility of Royal Road because it felt like each card had multiple uses (immediate buff or defer it to empower a later, potentially better buff in three different ways), I liked having a 50/50 chance to get Lord/Lady (I was usually happy to make use of either), and I liked the utility of Celestial Opposition and Time Dilation. The kit was suited for Savage raiding or for more casual, social content. There was pretty much nothing I wanted changing about it.

I wouldn't mind if they kept the seals, replaced Expanded with something else, and moved its effect into Divination, though.

Hell, I've switched my main away from AST, but the changes still haunt me; whenever I get a Spear when playing MNK, I have a brief rush of excitement before realising that the card isn't actually going to make my rotation more fun by opening chakras, and I feel disappointed by AST again. I can't escape!

I 100% feel your pain. And though I know in my mind that there is no way that they will revert back to 4.0 AST, my heart still leaves a sliver of hope that they will at least meet us half way and bring back Time Dilation and revert Celestial Opposition to how it was. We don't need 2 insta aoe heals, just make the cd on Horoscope lower so it can be used more often, or raise the potency so it can truly be an "OH Sh*t" button like indom. I'm just sitting here patiently waiting for the Savage content to come out so we can get our first real adjustments and see what they do.

The major issue I see myself with the new card system is that I need to put a lot of focus into cards and this wasn't an issue before despite 4.0 cards had more options/combinations/effects avaiable.

Now when drawing I need to think if that card is optimal for my party and if the seal is the right one. I can feel I put a lot of brain effort into it distracting me from healing.

This just gets so much worse everytime I use Sleeve Draw. I try to think before hand what cards are the right ones but it's inevitable for me that I will lose focus for 5-10 seconds while the skill is active.

When you have a party missing a role (melee dps/ranged) no matter how many charges of Redraw you have, theres a lot of cases where you keep getting the bad card over and over again. Specially when hunting the last seal.

Burning a card into Minor Arcana is sometimes the "fastest" way of dealing with it but even though Minor Arcana and Play are instant casts for some reason they take some time to apply. It doesn't feel smooth at all. Thats time they are taking out of me healing or DPSing. I don't remember it was this clunky before?

Also, it doesn't help the amount buttons I need to press to play cards. Its way too complex/time consuming for the reward you get. At this point I'd rather they remove the whole card system and give me some AoE DMG buff and call it a day.

I dont even understand what the point of having 6 different cards is at this point. All you need to look is, is this card blue or red and what symbol it brings?