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  1. #1
    Player
    kyuxel's Avatar
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    Xelaiel Orunitia
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Agreed with OP so much. The card change makes me so angry. My main healer is changed to something so dumb. The system doesn't make sense, why not just give one ability called " balance" that give aoe damage buff and remove the cards altogether. And Sleeve draw... Who has time to keep drawing cards in raids when you need to keep healing.
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kyuxel View Post
    And Sleeve draw... Who has time to keep drawing cards in raids when you need to keep healing.
    We don't know healing requirements yet, but as of today, Draw, Redraw, Royal Road, Sleeve Draw, Draw can all be used in succession with no DPS nor healing loss.
    We have 1.5sec Malefic as a solution to easily weave Draws. That's not a problem at all.
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    Sanghelios's Avatar
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Anyone else feeling that it feels not worth anymore to give a card to a party member due to low reward and potentially high amount of button pressing required to achieve it? What i mean is, i would have to press at least two buttons (Draw & Play) for a optimal outcome for a normal card, 3 buttons for a king/lady (Draw&Minor&Play) and that would just be the case when i am drawing the right cards right ahead. In a more average scenario, i would have to press 1-3 additional buttons for redraws, totaling it at ~6 buttons in worst case. Either way, i found this to be way to much button pressing for just a 15s buff that i have to redo every 30s. Not to mention those 15s arent really 15s too, because you wont line up your card exactly with the target starting their cast, so you are actually more likely looking at a 12-13s buff with your cards. Sorry to say that, but this just doesnt feel worthy anymore and more like a complete joke.

    You surely had to press plenty buttons in 4.x too, although at that time the resut was absolutely satisfying and felt worthy.
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    Melikka's Avatar
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    Neyria Apple
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    Anyone else feeling that it feels not worth anymore to give a card to a party member due to low reward and potentially high amount of button pressing required to achieve it? What i mean is, i would have to press at least two buttons (Draw & Play) for a optimal outcome for a normal card, 3 buttons for a king/lady (Draw&Minor&Play) and that would just be the case when i am drawing the right cards right ahead. In a more average scenario, i would have to press 1-3 additional buttons for redraws, totaling it at ~6 buttons in worst case. Either way, i found this to be way to much button pressing for just a 15s buff that i have to redo every 30s. Not to mention those 15s arent really 15s too, because you wont line up your card exactly with the target starting their cast, so you are actually more likely looking at a 12-13s buff with your cards. Sorry to say that, but this just doesnt feel worthy anymore and more like a complete joke.

    You surely had to press plenty buttons in 4.x too, although at that time the resut was absolutely satisfying and felt worthy.
    YES!
    I usually only draw like... at the start and then don't bother anymore, because why? What's it for? Random Number% DPS up... so? Mobs aren't dying faster to that and I can only play Bingo every three minutes anyway.

    I am actually, after playing some dungeons, at the point where I think I am giving up on Astro for now. I'll give the other classes a try, but... really I don't see myself healing this Expa, unless I want an Insta Q (Adventure in Need is Healer everywhere at the moment it seems)
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    Sanghelios's Avatar
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Melikka View Post
    YES!
    I usually only draw like... at the start and then don't bother anymore, because why? What's it for? Random Number% DPS up... so? Mobs aren't dying faster to that and I can only play Bingo every three minutes anyway.

    I am actually, after playing some dungeons, at the point where I think I am giving up on Astro for now. I'll give the other classes a try, but... really I don't see myself healing this Expa, unless I want an Insta Q (Adventure in Need is Healer everywhere at the moment it seems)
    I actually forgot Sleeve Draw too, wich just adds more button pressing. Ive done my first lvl71 Run just now and during the last boss it just felt that there is WAY to much button pressing going on just to handle the cards. And when Sleeve Draw comes up its just a overwhelming hassle for a potentional ~0.05% increased clear time. That then leaves me thinking, not only did they fail do "fix" the healers, but also made them absolute not fun to play while also failing their goal to simplify this aspect of the game.
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  6. #6
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    RulerOfPotaoes's Avatar
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    Drafus Thicc'rod
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I know I've said it once before release but... Divination needs to have its cooldown lowered and potency slightly buffed. Wasn't spread Balance like 5% AoE 20 sec duration + could be extended?

    In dungeon bosses alone i can only manage to use it once before the boss dies.. i like the concept of the Seals but the pay off is just not There.... I mean even SMN now has a AoE 5% damage buff and on a shorter cooldown if im correct.
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes View Post
    I know I've said it once before release but... Divination needs to have its cooldown lowered and potency slightly buffed. Wasn't spread Balance like 5% AoE 20 sec duration + could be extended?

    In dungeon bosses alone i can only manage to use it once before the boss dies.. i like the concept of the Seals but the pay off is just not There.... I mean even SMN now has a AoE 5% damage buff and on a shorter cooldown if im correct.
    Divination does feel underwhelming as it is now. It needs to be a higher potency and/or a shorter cooldown, being as it's essentially AST's keystone ability I should be able to use it more than once on a boss fight, MAYBE twice if the DPS is slow.

    But honestly ideally I would like to see the "fantasy" of the unique card effects brought to Divination somehow (probably too big a rework...). Divination means making sense of the signs you see and interpreting the outcome, so it's weird that it's just the same as the cards with another damage boost. I honestly have no idea how you'd effectively go about it but something like if you have idk at least 1 lunar seal in your spread you decrease the party's damage taken as well as the damage boost could be neat.
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    Fionna Dawnbreaker
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    They did my baby C.O dirty. What is this 120sec CD baby aoe heal nonsense? At least keep the stun on it :l
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    416to305's Avatar
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    Psycho Bunny
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I'm so disappointed, AST is so fricken boring now. I'm only at level 71 so I get that it might change but man, I'm finding myself just not even using cards and forgetting about them as they seem to underwhelming. And then it drives me fricken crazy how the person you use a card on has to be engaged in battle as well! Just did a dungeon, and the tank would attack the boss, I'd use a card on someone only to see it didn't even take effect because even though myself and the tank had engaged the boss, that person hadn't, so the card got burned. Debating on switching to WHM but I dunno I love AST I just don't know if I can keep playing it as it's just so borrrrring.
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