Dungeon Problem - Am I missing something?

[Nero24200]

Hi all,

New to the game but I'm encountering a huge problem with regards to the games dungeons. I've had a few instances where people have quit mid-dungeon and this creates a few problems.

1. I cannot complete the dungeon without a full party. Granted, 9 times out of 10 the person that left is usually the weakest party member, but a 3 person group just isn't enough. There's two ways I can see to quit - Vote Abandon or just disband. The vote seems silly though, requiring 15 minutes before it can be done... why? Most dungeons I've been in don't last 15 minutes in total, why should I have to wait that when someone has clearly abandoned the group?

2. The option to find another party member is perpetually blanked out. I've seen people saying messages about it searching should come up automatically but I've never seen this. This kinda leaves only the Abandon option above.

3. I can't always blacklist the players that quit, since if they log off the search system seems incapable of finding them. So I'm forced to abandon while the guilty player is effectively getting off free?

4. Lastly, this all wouldn't be as bad if it didn't throw a 30 minute penalty at you. If I just quit for the sake of it I'd get it, but I've only ever abandoned when other players have already left. It's frustrating that I can go into a dungeon, do well, see some idiot quit and leave the rest of us hanging, then being forced to eat a 30 minute penalty before being able to attempt again.

Am I missing something or is this system really as broke as I think it is?

[kidalutz]

1.If you cant wait a couple extra minutes for it to fill back up you can always leave there is no penalty for you if someone else already left group and you go before it fills back up. That said you'll likely just tick the others off since you're apparently the tank.

2.Party Leader is the one who determines whether or not to search for replacement.If youre not party leader than it isnt gonna show up for you.

3.Yes you can blacklist the players that quit. Once you finish or leave the dungeoun you can go over the contacts list and it'll bring up the parties you previously grouped with you can blacklist the quitters form there if that's your perogative.

4. Again what penalty? You dont get a penalty for leaving if someone else leaves first they do however.

I would say you're missing a bit but thast's cool though I really hope that at 51 you have your Paladin Job Stone equipped because a 51 gladiator is missing bunches of things they need to be more effective tanks.

[Nero24200]

I've always been getting a penalty even if someone else has left first. What prompted me to write this was me literally experiencing this about half an hour ago.

[ReiMakoto]

I've always been getting a penalty even if someone else has left first. What prompted me to write this was me literally experiencing this about half an hour ago.

Whats probably happened is if you waited about 30 seconds longer the replacement would have shown up, and because the replacement was about to load in, it didn't treat it as a partially empty party

[MrThinker]

Whats probably happened is if you waited about 30 seconds longer the replacement would have shown up, and because the replacement was about to load in, it didn't treat it as a partially empty party

I can confirm this is a thing that happens. How long do you usually wait for a replacement? Generally speaking, you should wait around 5-6 minutes for another player to show. After that it becomes increasingly unlikely that a player will zone in, and its up to you if you want to stay or not. I usually wait 10 minutes myself before calling quits.

[Frizze]

And since when is it impossible to finish a dungeon short-handed? If the person dropping is a DPS then the fights just take longer. If the person dropping is the tank then a DPS becomes the new tank and the healer has to work harder(splitting the enmity on trash pulls can also help sometimes). If the person dropping is the healer then the tank needs to maximize their cooldown effectiveness and self-sustain options while the DPS burn as hard as they can so fights dont drag. Not every combo is equally doable in every dungeon, but few of them are outright impossible - just different degrees of challenging.

OP, i peaked at your character(to make sure you actually had your job stone). You should upgrade your sword. Your shield and jewelry arent stellar(your armor is "okish" but also a fair ways below whats easily available), but your sword is probly holding you back. If people are quitting on you a lot then its likely this(your gear) is part of the problem.

[Reinfeld]

Even if you blacklist quitters that won't stop you from getting them in your que. That said, for general leveling content the likely hood of you everencountering the same person twice or recognizing them is pretty low.

[Freerider]

I guess my major question would be do you know why they are quitting? If you have an idea maybe we can help you figure out how to keep those people in party.

[Jimmymagic]

I guess my major question would be do you know why they are quitting? If you have an idea maybe we can help you figure out how to keep those people in party.

obviously the fact your a GLA level 54 and gear level is inappropriate.
Get you PLD soul Crystal and upgrade your gear. This will reduce the amount of people quitting.

Also, to OP the first person to leave is not always the weakest link, usually the smartest, that value their time by comparing a long miserable run or take 30 min penalty. Out of respect for the group I make sure I enter at a reasonable ilevel when tanking. One way to get a healer to rage quit is to make them burn there mp to keep you alive for one or two mobs because your a GLD in a level 30 or higher dungeon.

[Hasrat]

obviously the fact your a GLA level 54 and gear level is inappropriate.
Get you PLD soul Crystal and upgrade your gear. This will reduce the amount of people quitting.

Forum listings aren't strictly accurate. OP has soul crystal. But yes, as pointed out, gear was a bit atrocious.