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    AnimaAnimus's Avatar
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I personally find it hard to laugh or shrug off hateful language or other such things. There's a clear distinct difference. Some people just refuse to see it.
    Oh, I agree, there are definitely lines. However you can sneeze in the wrong direction and have someone cry they are offended too. Kind of like the cancer argument here. Saying something is cancer or cancerous goes way back and is commonly used both in and out of games. But that doesn't stop the OP from being offended by it. My dad died of cancer. My dog died of cancer. But its a completely different usage. Still can't stop the offended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I don't know how that's possible when everyone claims to have thick skin and just shrug things off. There's more people saying "eh I don't care say whatever you want even if it's a slur as long as it's not at me" than people 'getting offended'. I think it would be more accurate to say people in NA are more prone to arguing and provoking people. Things like memes or the odd harmless joke are fine, but I personally find it hard to laugh or shrug off hateful language or other such things. There's a clear distinct difference. Some people just refuse to see it.
    Right now they feel comfortable using jokes to dismiss the real importance of both conditions, what if later escalates to some sort of violence or any other criminal activity against persons with autism and cancer?
    Imagine you being treated at the HP and one of those enter and start to harass you in the HP or any other public place just because you are going into treatment for any of the conditions or both.

    That's what they did in WW2 they did dismiss the importance of such conditions to detach themselves from it and be able to study using humans as test subjects without any ethic or morals.
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    Last edited by AnnaRosa; 05-29-2019 at 04:31 PM.

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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    Right now they feel comfortable using jokes to dismiss the real importance of both conditions, what if later escalates to some sort of violence or any other criminal activity against persons with autism and cancer?
    Once again, the term 'cancer' or 'cancerous' has been used in this way, as a metaphor for really bad, destructive, insidious and malignant things, for a very long time. It is not a new, internet based phenomenon, there is nothing at all offensive about it being used in this way, and there is absolutely no way its use will ever translate into violence against cancer sufferers.
    Please stop conflating it with the use of autism in this way, you're only showing how naive you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    Right now they feel comfortable using jokes to dismiss the real importance of both conditions, what if later escalates to some sort of violence or any other criminal activity against persons with autism and cancer?
    Imagine you being treated at the HP and one of those enter and start to harass you in the HP or any other public place just because you are going into treatment for any of the conditions or both.

    That's what they did in WW2 they did dismiss the importance of such conditions to detach themselves from it and be able to study using humans as test subjects without any ethic or morals.
    Doesn't matter how many mutters they give.

    The reality and the facts are written here unfortunately won't change the past and in WW2 that's exactly what they did in order to conduct experiments on humans they had to detach themselves from that reality and find a path so the society would accept and look at those crimes as normal.

    So let them joke about illness or other conditions all they want the moment they cross the virtual line to reality with that behavior their freedom of speech ends and I won't answer for my actions.
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    Last edited by Agaziel; 05-29-2019 at 05:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    Right now they feel comfortable using jokes to dismiss the real importance of both conditions, what if later escalates to some sort of violence or any other criminal activity against persons with autism and cancer?
    Imagine you being treated at the HP and one of those enter and start to harass you in the HP or any other public place just because you are going into treatment for any of the conditions or both.

    That's what they did in WW2 they did dismiss the importance of such conditions to detach themselves from it and be able to study using humans as test subjects without any ethic or morals.
    We approached Godwin's Law pages ago, but it was nice to see it get in a victory lap. No, really.
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    As a raging autist, I reserve the right to call myself and things completely autistic. Getting offended by calling someone or something an autist seems utterly bizarre, cos either you have autism and you're upset for someone saying something you have (???) or you don't have it and you're offended that someone would insinuate that you have it, in which case you probably have derogatory views of autistic people and need to be reported /s
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    I propose disable chat in PvE too, and only have chat macros! Toxicity guaranteed to drop to 0%!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    I propose disable chat in PvE too, and only have chat macros! Toxicity guaranteed to drop to 0%!
    chat macros like dissidia NT game?? that's totally soulless. I prefer chatting with someone writing real things.
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    Johnathan Bravado
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    Petition to create an active skill called "Thicker Skin" that when active automatically replaces words of your choosing with other words.
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    'Till sea vores all.

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