why isnt there enough housing plots?!?!

[Allegor]

I honestly hate to be 'that' guy, I really do...but housing is a "privilege", not a right. There will always be people bound to not have one.

[Destati]

There is enough housing plots... nearly 10 times more than when it came out. Sadly Square Enix has dramatically reduced the prices, twice, and now everyone feels entitled to a house because Square Enix is literally giving them away at this point.

If people have to crowd around a single placard spam-clicking it in the hopes of owning a plot for hours on end, there are not enough houses. Sorry people aren't bleeding gil like you evidently are but I took a look at those old housing prices and they were absolutely ludicrous.

Unlike the OP, I worked for them.

What a pointless statement. Everyone has worked for their house - or are working for them now - in one way or another. Whether they worked to save up the gil or spent countless hours scoping out empty plots and clicking on the placard, it's still work.

I honestly hate to be 'that' guy, I really do...but housing is a "privilege", not a right. There will always be people bound to not have one.

Honestly? Everyone should be able to have a house if they already meet the requirements to do so (i.e. having enough gil and being the appropriate Grand Company rank). Not to mention it is an advertised feature of the game. While it may just be in a little blurb on the site, I will say that I have had a few friends who were very much incentivized into playing the game in the first place by the prospect of being able to decorate their own house. Finally, if there are other MMOs where everyone is able to own a house, then there is absolutely no reason why FFXIV can't be the same.

[Mist_16_reporting_in]

Not that it's any of my business. But if you do own almost a whole ward. What's the point? You cant flip houses anymore lol.

What's the point of being gil capped if there's nothing to spend money on?

It is pretty naive to think SE has done anything to prevent house reselling considering FC houses can be traded, like they always could, and players resell desirable plot locations for personal housing relocation. The only thing that has changed in the reselling of houses since 2.1 is that you can't buy your way in other than through an FC house. That's it.

The fact that there aren't enough plots for everyone doesn't mean that someone hasn't worked for it.

She could be swimming in gil and still unable to get a house. Most people can't stand in front of a placard spamming buttons for hours on end.

There would be enough plots for everyone if small houses still costed 15-20m. If you don't own a plot despite "swimming in gil", you're either not even trying, refusing to purchase someone's FC house or you don't want to get off your populated server when there are plenty of available plots, near the minimum value, on other servers.

What do you mean when you say you "worked for them"? Not hating, just curious.

I acquired all of these on my own. I think out of the 23, previously 24, FC houses I own, I only bought 4. The 3 personals obviously couldn't be bought, but I managed to land them in the non-subdivision part of the ward until one of the remaining neighbors I have grabs that eviction check. I leveled up those 3 characters. I grinded those FCs to rank 6/8. I grinded to gil cap in order to be able to acquire houses/offer ridiculous amounts of gil to my neighbors. I beat the purchase timer numerous time. You don't see me complaining. You don't see other multiple house owners complain about the purchase timer, they just roll with it.

If people have to crowd around a single placard spam-clicking it in the hopes of owning a plot for hours on end, there are not enough houses. Sorry people aren't bleeding gil like you evidently are but I took a look at those old housing prices and they were absolutely ludicrous. What a pointless statement. Everyone has worked for their house - or are working for them now - in one way or another. Whether they worked to save up the gil or spent countless hours scoping out empty plots and clicking on the placard, it's still work.

Players complaining about the previous housing system, despite being flawless, is the reason why aspiring house owners are dealing with this system. That's called justice I guess.

The 2.1 prices were awesome as it gave housing a purpose and an actual meaning. You had FCs trash talking in front of empty plots because they had to gamble with the devaluation timer. That timer has been completely pointless on any non-dead server for more than two years. Whether you like it or not, housing is supposed to take gil out of the game and it's really not doing a great job right now because everyone and their chocobo can afford to purchase a small house.

You only work for something if you end up acquiring it. Until then, we can argue that it's wasted time. Just like complaining on a forum.

[Senn]

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So you bought houses off of other players. Did you ever use the housing reddit?

[Penthea]

I honestly hate to be 'that' guy, I really do...but housing is a "privilege", not a right. There will always be people bound to not have one.

It's bad design to lock players out of content simply because they weren't lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time.

This privilege argument is little other than thinly veiled elitism. Reserve the elitism for moments when you're skilled at the game in content such as savage. There is no skill in buying a house. Most of it is luck.

The only way to take luck out of the equation is to move to a low population server. However the transfer fee, the gil cap, having to leave your fc and the inability to bring fc progress with you all act as deterrents that stop players from going to a new server.

And before anyone says "tough poop you should have created your character on a different server" let me remind you that new players rarely know how bad the housing situation is. No one starts a new game automatically assuming some content is so broken that they must actively seek dead servers to be able to engage in it.

[Allegor]

It's bad design to lock players out of content simply because they weren't lucky enough to be at the right place at the right time.

This privilege argument is little other than thinly veiled elitism. Reserve the elitism for moments when you're skilled at the game in content such as savage. There is no skill in buying a house. Most of it is luck.

That's exactly why I used quotation marks - it doesn't mean I agree to it, but the very quests to unlock the housing districts states it's reserved for the most wealthy adventurers, so it's pretty clear housing wasn't made with the intention of everyone getting a house and players to compete for plots. Granted, they likely didn't foresee all the BS and loopholes players would do to get a spot either, but even if that policy has changed after the years it's not as easy as simply adding more wards, unless they add A LOT of them.
Even If/when they open Ishgard, I expect all house plots will be taken within a week and there will still be people without one, taking us back to square one.

[Penthea]

That's exactly why I used quotation marks - it doesn't mean I agree to it, but the very quests to unlock the housing districts states it's reserved for the most wealthy adventurers, so it's pretty clear housing wasn't made with the intention of everyone getting a house and players to compete for plots. Granted, they likely didn't foresee all the BS and loopholes players would do to get a spot either, but even if that policy has changed after the years it's not as easy as simply adding more wards, unless they add A LOT of them.
Even If/when they open Ishgard, I expect all house plots will be taken within a week and there will still be people without one, taking us back to square one.

There aren't many ways to defend the housing system. Putting in a limited amount of slots for accessing content is never a good thing. Especially when accessing said content doesn't even require skill. Why? Because the more popular the game gets, the more players feel they're being punished simply for starting the game after other people did.

Whatever SE's intentions were, they clearly didn't think about the long-term effects of the housing system.

[Verius_Nox]

I honestly hate to be 'that' guy, I really do...but housing is a "privilege", not a right. There will always be people bound to not have one.

They pay a subscription, just like you, they are entitled to have the ability to participate in the content that is offered. The gil requirement is akin to that of a gear requirement to savage raids. If they can meet the requirement, they should have the ability to enjoy the content offered.