GM Warning for 'Offensive Language', No actual reason given

[AlphaFox]

Honestly offensive language can be so different for everyone. Someone could say "I don't like Lalafells" and a fellow players report them as harassment. An extreme example but it wouldn't shock me these days. I do agree it is silly to say "Don't use bad language" but then not elaborate on what exactly was said. If you were cursing or using foul language then obviously you have an idea of what the issue is but if not, then its a total guessing game.

[DanteKardo]

I've said it in this chat already, I fully suspect this Warning was justified and right on principle of the established ToS. This doesn't change the fact however that without knowing exactly what it was I was 'warned' for, I cannot be reasonably expected to just 'divine' on my own what I did wrong. I play maybe 2-3 days a week, the rest of the time I work, and this warning came in exactly after I logged into the game. I've no frame of refference whatsoever to know what I've been warned for, at all.

[Fawkes]

I've always found it a little silly that the game has a profanity filter you can turn on, but they still ban for using profanity. What's the point of the filter then?

However, I can understand why they wouldn't tell you what you said. They would also basically be telling you who reported you by doing so. Unless you swear at everybody all the time. It's probably against their policy to tell you who reported you so you don't go seeking retribution or anything.

[Reinfeld]

He doesn't need to know WHAT he said. He just needs to keep his mouth shut. They specifically DO NOT tell you WHAT you said because they don't want the other party to be harassed again.

Sounds like crappy policy to me. And actually I've been reported before and they DID quote me what I said to earn a report. So it doesn't make sense to me that they wouldn't tell him.

[DanteKardo]

I've always found it a little silly that the game has a profanity filter you can turn on, but they still ban for using profanity. What's the point of the filter then?

However, I can understand why they wouldn't tell you what you said. They would also basically be telling you who reported you by doing so. Unless you swear at everybody all the time. It's probably against their policy to tell you who reported you so you don't go seeking retribution or anything.

That's not how you properly process administrative issues however. Even in companies with anonymous complaint boxes, if there is action to be taken against a person, that person is told exactly what it is for, not a vague concept of what he may've done in the span of 2-3 weeks prior.

[DanteKardo]

-Removed I guess-

[Skivvy]

This is just one of the many reasons why XIV's ToS enforcement is trash.

Anyone with a brain is not going to try to retaliate against someone after they've been reported once, so trying to "protect" the one who reported somebody by refusing to elaborate on ToS violations is really stupid.

.....I think people would be incredibly likely to harass the person who reported them if they knew who to go after. Humans are an incredibly petty bunch.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

.....I think people would be incredibly likely to harass the person who reported them if they knew who to go after. Humans are an incredibly petty bunch.

even if that was the case if someone is going to report because their feelings got hurt they would use common sense and black list that person right after so that shouldn't even be a worry.

[Skivvy]

even if that was the case if someone is going to report because their feelings got hurt they would use common sense and black list that person right after so that shouldn't even be a worry.

Common sense is lacking quite often though. There is a reason why the OF, and I think even the Sub, doesn't allow names to be dropped.

[RoroCookies]

Real question. When the GMs say go to the forums about these cases, does anything actually happen?