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  1. #21
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    VydarrTyr's Avatar
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    Vydarr Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galadrios View Post
    With the current set of NMs it is hands down the best tank in game.
    This is interesting. You're a 50 Glad/50 Mar, so you obviously know what you're talking about. And Marauders have the largest HP pool available. But I was under the impression that Gladiators are the best NM tanks, since they get the widest array of aggro pulling and defensive abilities, and their shields significantly decrease the damage taken. Can you expand on why Marauders are the best tanks?
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    Tatsumaki Zhi
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    Quote Originally Posted by VydarrTyr View Post
    This is interesting. You're a 50 Glad/50 Mar, so you obviously know what you're talking about. And Marauders have the largest HP pool available. But I was under the impression that Gladiators are the best NM tanks, since they get the widest array of aggro pulling and defensive abilities, and their shields significantly decrease the damage taken. Can you expand on why Marauders are the best tanks?
    Im also a 50 Gla/Mrd. Mrd can hold hate much better than Gla, due to the fact that we can actually pull hate through our DD and have spike hate actions on the side. Not only that, alot of our actions increase enmity.

    What Gla excels at is damage mitigation, due to shield and various other defensive abilities. Either way, both are great tanks and depending on if you need more damage given or less damage taken, you can choose either as your tank.
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  3. #23
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    Thanks, Warby. Should have known that the guy who put together the Marauder guide would have some good info on Marauder tanking. ^^

    I've been back-up tanking so far, but I may have to jack up my Vit and play around with primary tanking some.
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    Galadrios Stormbringer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warby View Post
    Im also a 50 Gla/Mrd. Mrd can hold hate much better than Gla, due to the fact that we can actually pull hate through our DD and have spike hate actions on the side. Not only that, alot of our actions increase enmity.

    What Gla excels at is damage mitigation, due to shield and various other defensive abilities. Either way, both are great tanks and depending on if you need more damage given or less damage taken, you can choose either as your tank.
    Warby is totally right. The problem is that with the current set of NM (being pretty much the only end game content we currently have), damage mitigation is not really needed and that is why at the current state I believe mrd is better. Bear in mind I am talking about a mrd with the appropriate subs levelled, so with access to gld and pug skills. I am sure they have in store some new NMs where the extra durability of a gld will be key to the strat.

    As we stand now here is a breakdown of the NMs:

    Dodore: MRD rocks thanks to the combination of full swing + steadfast. It means that even though the debuff doesnt allow you to use your aggro skills, you can still keep all the adds on you by hitting them at the same time increasing your enmity generation.

    The Goblin: MRD can solo tank the boss and the adds easily without ever loosing aggro. Very easy fight.

    Mosshorn: Once again with all those adds, MRD is your best choice to hold them together.

    Uraeus: I have tanked it on mrd but I believe GLD can perform better on this one.

    Great Buffalo: MRD or GLD pretty much on the same level for this. The main issue I have found with this NM is the aggro reset move it does which is annoying for any tank regardless of its class.
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  5. #25
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    Lienn Deleene
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    Well, i play "DRK-style" with MRD. Using absorb spellls as MRD is helping alot with accuracy issues. Absorb ACC from one, EVA from next, ACC again from third (recast is still long even with the afinity trait so alternating is a good deal).

    Also, absorb ATK and DEF often increase my WS damage by around 100 points.

    But of course, i had to put points at mage attributes (which isn't bad at all) and use 4 darksilver rings for a better magic accuracy.

    I saw so many people claiming DEX would save MRD...i started with 120 DEX...nowadays i have 82 DEX, 80 PIE and prefering much more as it is now.
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    Solomon Grundy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lienn View Post
    Well, i play "DRK-style" with MRD. Using absorb spellls as MRD is helping alot with accuracy issues. Absorb ACC from one, EVA from next, ACC again from third (recast is still long even with the afinity trait so alternating is a good deal).

    Also, absorb ATK and DEF often increase my WS damage by around 100 points.

    But of course, i had to put points at mage attributes (which isn't bad at all) and use 4 darksilver rings for a better magic accuracy.

    I saw so many people claiming DEX would save MRD...i started with 120 DEX...nowadays i have 82 DEX, 80 PIE and prefering much more as it is now.
    That's quite interesting...I may need to look into that.
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  7. #27
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    Taiga Inktooth
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'd say full silver rings +1 (since they give you the most acc, cause you can wear all 4 of 'em) and seafood dishes give the most acc. I use Mugwort Carp, they are lvl 40 so difficult to get your hands on usually, but it's the best. Here is a list of some of the accuracy foods! I don't miss any more than all the other DoW classes do, I use a Vintage Bill, rank 50, with 130 Dex. Hope this helps!
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  8. #28
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    Thanks for the response, Galadrios. Considering the beating our Glads took while fighting Mosshorn, I thought that fight would be best left to Glads. But between you and Warby, I feel kind of inspired to try my hand at tanking some more. So thanks!
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    I have found STR to effect my accuracy much more than DEX does. Wearing the +7 STR rings (Garnet) with a HQ E.bhuj, I find missing to be much less of a problem. I noticed a huge difference in TP generation on NMs, particularly Uraeus who tends to be a pain in my ass trying to get TP for Maim.

    Stack strength, see what it does for you.


    Edited to add: My base stats (STR/VIT/DEX) are 139/120/107, after gear 174/126/114.
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  10. #30
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    Renta Hamster
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    I love playing Marauder on the NM Goblins and Dodore.

    Broad Swing, Broad Swing, Broad Swing, Steadfast, Skull Sunder II, Brutal Swing II, Skull Sunder II, Brutal Swing II, Broad Swing... Eh, rinse and repeat.

    I love seeing the yellow numbers rain.
    Hehehehe, indeed. One of the only times I ever use Enduring March, lol
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