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  1. #111
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    Tsiron's Avatar
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    Shisen Akaitama
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    I think they're planning to update everyone? Especially considering they already use the same body model(s) just squished and pulled into slightly different shapes
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

  2. #112
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I think they're planning to update everyone? Especially considering they already use the same body model(s) just squished and pulled into slightly different shapes
    I mean they might. And likely will. They'd be daft if they wouldn't. But they already said the original ARR races are getting updated first, meaning your race, my race and the race of the target of this thread will be walking around in PS3 graphics.
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  3. #113
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Different universe/continuity so it doesn't need to explicitly stick to everything previous canons had. Giving Viera digitgrade feet would probably make them a nightmare to model foot gear on. It would be an even bigger issue than headgear apparently is for them.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    Giving Viera digitgrade feet would probably make them a nightmare to model foot gear on. It would be an even bigger issue than headgear apparently is for them.
    I don't think anyone is requesting SE forcibly change all of the Viera playerbase's feet, that would definitely cause an uproar for those who are against it. But rather if they ever get around to updating the character customization menu then at least give us the option... Also, with a warning that it would result in limiting footwear, a simple 'warning: choosing this race/option will limit your glamour options' so it at least gives new players a heads up.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

  5. #115
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    I'll be honest I'd be kind of iffy on that sort of implementation, it would make a race feel very inconsistent from a design standpoint though realistically stuff like how different Au Ra horns are from one face to another is already pushing it. Either design them with that trait (in this case, digitigrade feet) in mind from the start or don't..
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

  6. #116
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    Warning people that a race will be limited in glamour options due to its design has hardly worked out well for the dev team so far.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Warning people that a race will be limited in glamour options due to its design has hardly worked out well for the dev team so far.
    I get that, but that’s mainly because there’s no warning that Viera and Hrothgar are limited on the character selection screen… Not only that, the potentially mistranslated transcript hinted we would get more race-exclusive hair to compensate for lack of headgear. To flake out on both of those options it’s no wonder people are rightfully infuriated.

    Yoshi only gave a brief “Viera and Hroth won’t be able to wear headgear” dating back in 2019, so unless new players are keeping up to date with XIV’s interviews then they have no way of knowing until they’ve already selected the limited races or have been told by other players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I'll be honest I'd be kind of iffy on that sort of implementation, it would make a race feel very inconsistent from a design standpoint though realistically stuff like how different Au Ra horns are from one face to another is already pushing it. Either design them with that trait (in this case, digitigrade feet) in mind from the start or don't..
    Usually the inconsistency would have annoyed me too, but then as many people on this thread have pointed out Viera have never been consistent when it comes to their feet... Bar FFXII which is the best, but I digress.

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    Last edited by SherlottaEryut; 09-16-2022 at 09:28 PM. Reason: Edit: Did not see the other reply to me, added in second bit.

  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Usually the inconsistency would have annoyed me too, but then as many people on this thread have pointed out Viera have never been consistent when it comes to their feet... Bar FFXII which is the best, but I digress.
    Feet aside, and not as a criticism, it's interesting to me that the Viera fems in the illustration you provided, perhaps as a reflection of the source of the illustration, all appear child-like (I'm guessing because of the size of their heads relative to the rest of the body, the poses, and the expressions?)
    In contrast, Viera fems in the game appear more adult.

    I've seen Miqo'te fem PCs that look 14 years old or so (human equivalent) but I haven't come across a Viera fem PC that looks that young.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
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    That's just the art style in this particular case, canonically they've always looked the way they do in FFXII and (debatably) FFXIV. Though, funnily enough, there's concept art from back in HW of tiny Viera!
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    That's just the art style in this particular case, canonically they've always looked the way they do in FFXII and (debatably) FFXIV. Though, funnily enough, there's concept art from back in HW of tiny Viera!
    A bit off topic, but I was somewhat hoping for more unique racial hairstyles like the ones in this concept art. Here's to hoping the devs revisit these old concepts to create more unique hairs for Viera.
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