Randomly Making OCD Observation about WHM Job Actions

[DotsNnots]

WHM is looking like a giant CD management nightmare though @_@ If it is I look forward to it~

This is the part I'm most concerned about.

Right now WHM is clipmage - it's next to impossible to play optimally without clipping, and your optimization choices are centered around avoiding clipping.

Even if that aoe is an instant GCD heal (which would be gross) we're not going to intentionally spam an instant heal just to make a weave window, that's still a net loss, you're only going to use it if healing is needed - and even then if it's tied to the GCD you'll still rely on oGCDs first. Like, for the sake of math let's say the all of the lily consuming/generating skills were GCDs. Using stone VI's potency for the math, unless the red lily does more than 750p damage, you're not going to want to GCD heal needlessly just to get the red lily. And if you or your co-healer has oGCD heals that can cover the damage, the math will likely point to the oGCDs being more value since most oGCDs have zero or limited costs, and a GCD (instant or otherwise) still costs you a GCD that could've been damage...

Would be interesting if the red lily is somehow so potent that it makes it worth the value of losing the "stone" (aka new damage spell) casts, though.

[Ghishlain]

Right now WHM is clipmage - it's next to impossible to play optimally without clipping, and your optimization choices are centered around avoiding clipping.

I'm of opposite mindset since I find the challenge of "selecting the right tool" to be pretty fun. Just because you have all these lovely oGCDs at your disposal doesn't mean you shouldn't be pushing them all either. Thus finding the optimal skill usage on the fly will be a nightmare yet rewarding experience in my mind. I find the hardest part of playing WHM is not wanting to hit everything unless you need to.

With that being said I am in agreement that the optimal choice will generally be shared healing responsibilities via oGCDs, but having an GCD AoE instant heal wouldn't be bad either. IE you can use it after Final Omega's Electric Slide to get people topped off prior to Delta Attack and still allow the WHM to move into position properly. Also allows for free non-clip use of Swiftcast to allow the WHM to stack back in while using a GCD afterwards.

Would be interesting if the red lily is somehow so potent that it makes it worth the value of losing the "stone" (aka new damage spell) casts, though.

I had a random shower thought of lilies can be grown both over time and with the use of a Cure. Meaning there may be some optimized scenarios that using a Cure may result in a net gain instead of waiting the 30s if the potency is high enough on the lily. IE, if it's 750p like you mentioned before, using a Cure II followed into the lily attack would reduce the need to clip a GCD later for Tetra, resulting in a net DPS gain.

I guess time will tell though, I might be too tired to offer good theorycraft ATM, lol. I'm looking forward to seeing the tooltips come the 29th but it's also fun to theorize what everything means in that 35s some odd long video too.

I feel we are getting a huge confession / plenary rework given the amount of times those animations pop up.

Not really sure, but I think the blood lilly attack look a bit like Penelo's (FFXII) Intercession quickening?

I never played FFXII so I wish I could comment on this xD

[manamoppet]

I never played FFXII so I wish I could comment on this xD

Me neither (but I want to play it at some point), though I did watch some youtube videos of different Final Fantasy magic some time ago. Did some googling and found a gif from FF Brave Exvius of Intercession that's a bit more easier to compare with than the one in FFXII:



and from the job action video



There's not much difference I think (color tint and lack of rising orb)... though some part of Intercession might have been a visual inspiration, or it may be just a coincidence