Ranged jobs and lack of DPS

[tyrantdragon]

Wow I was pouring over the notes and I like how they're making tanking strictly tanking healing strictly healing DPS strictly DPS
(but what are the development team thinking I mean range classes like bard mechanic and now dancer are supposed to be DPS not support classes .
I mean let's look at it like this they scale the DPS of the range classes off of AOE damage there for making it the weakest jobs of all , (all range classes are so utterly weak it is unreal let's say you hit 10,000 enemies at one hit point per damage you're doing 10000 damage per second but in actuality you're actually useless because you're only doing one hit point attack) so I would like to know and ask the development team I've heard of tanking I heard of DPS and healing those are called The holy Trinity but when did you add a new class called support because these range classes that you scale DPS off of AOE damage is absolutely useless you need to seriously upgrade their damage .
Quit focusing on support class because there is no such thing as a support class it is DPS tanking and healing that healers should be all the support you need.
I see it now all the rage classes are going to be utterly useless just like they was when bard first came out and 1.5 which was launched of a realm reborn or before 2.0 to where they were just utterly useless.l , so my request dear developers is to pull out your calculators start calculating up damage and make sure it's single Target damage like black mages" oh my God I just committed blasphemy I spoke out against how powerful the black mages" come on up to the DPS on the range classes and quit focusing on AOE damage because that's not true damage
Please stick with the holy Trinity we don't need a fourth useless job classification DPS tank and healing is all we need

[tyrantdragon]

I am sorry web site auto spell completely ruin the post I was speaking about the lack of DPS on range classes and the fact that we do not need a support class all we need is DPS healing and support the first part was supposed to say
( I like that tank will be tanks , DPS will be DPS healers will be healers and I like how they are doing that but the range classes need to be addressed) that is what I typed at the beginning of the post I am sorry for auto correct post

[tyrantdragon]

See what I mean

[Lambdafish]

Taking buffs into account, ranged DPS contribute just as much, if not more raid DPS as the other jobs. The devs have decided that ranged physical DPS = support because an actual support role at this stage of the games lifespan is pointless. If you think that low damage makes a class weak, choosing to ignore all of the buffs, then you are playing the game very very wrong. BRD is one of the most valuable classes, and SAM is one of the least valuable.

[HyoMinPark]

You've misunderstood about the tanks and healers - especially the latter. They still have offensive spells and will be expected to contribute damage when they aren't healing. Unless the damage output in this game is significantly increased, healer will never get away with only healing in this game. Tanking has only become baby mode in that tank stance no longer gives them a damage penalty; it just makes everything they do generate enmity, so holding aggro seems very braindead now. They also stressed that all tanks will still be functional as OTs. However, we do not know what damage values currently look like, and we won't until the media embargo lifts on the 29th.


As for the physical ranged, there's a lot of speculation that their utility was actually gutted and/or removed after watching the PLL.

BRD still has damaging abilities. MCH still has damaging abilities. DNC also has damaging abilities despite its dancing buffs. They are not full-on support roles that will not contribute their own damage. Ironically, the PLL said that they wanted to move away from groups always taking certain jobs, and as such have removed the passive Crit rate BRD songs give for 5.0.

However, as I said before, we don't know all the details yet. So don't start jumping to conclusions. We'll know more on the 29th, I'm sure.