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    odintius's Avatar
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    For me yes the wings seems cool but kinda not detailed bland looking. The lilies I'm curious how long for lilies charges if too long might as well been still using spells and prey there up certain situations. The pure healer for all job I'm curious on this statement alone are they going to add more heal check more damage if not we'll umm sorry to say my regens will still cover most situations >.>
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    Auryan's Avatar
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    Mister Feeny
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Remove DPS? What? Did no one pay attention to when they mentioned the Black Lilies? That they give access to strong offensive spells? Holy II or something, if I remember correctly.
    Can't comment on the change of aesthetic to a more divine/light look. I kind of dig it, but hope that the other elements aren't just...gone.
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    Coltvoyance's Avatar
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    Athaleiya Eclesiance
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    Brynhildr
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Auryan View Post
    Remove DPS? What? Did no one pay attention to when they mentioned the Black Lilies? That they give access to strong offensive spells? Holy II or something, if I remember correctly.
    Can't comment on the change of aesthetic to a more divine/light look. I kind of dig it, but hope that the other elements aren't just...gone.
    People are skimming over a lot of other threads and posts that provide information that might quell their fears but oh well. This is how it will be for a bit. The internet misinformation train continues to roll.
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    Quick, everybody into the Batmobile!

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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maka8295 View Post
    Is anyone else really worried about what's happening to WHM? I've mained WHM for as long as i've played this game and I'm getting seriously bummed out about the aesthetic changes. My first big problem is the wings, I just can't stand how tacky they look, they won't look good with anything that isn't a white wedding dress and not everyone wants to look like that... what happened to the more utilitarian aesthetic of the old artifact armor? Its just dresses and frills now... My problem is that these wings only play to that one aesthetic.

    Lastly, white mage never really had any damage identity outside of holy, until FF14 where we got stone and aero, now that they seem to be taking it away what's going to be left of the conjurer aesthetic? To me that's the equivalent of taking away Black Mage's fire and blizzard.

    Sorry if this seems a bit ranty, I needed a place to dump my stress. I don't want to lose my favorite class
    Indeed! The wings look tacky and out of place. Why do we need to associate them with "angels" in the first place? Also, I hope they don't remove our firepower because pure healing sounds so boring and repetitive.
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    Aristotle Avinroo
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Pure healing is a snoozefest. I can get that experience in other MMOs. Having the option to DPS is what makes it fun. If they truly are removing offensive spells from our toolset, I can't see myself enjoying this class anymore. Unless they close the huge discrepancy in difficulty between MSQ and Savage, we are always going to have downtime.
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    Ivy Vespera
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    Phoenix
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I'm sure the healers will still have offensive spells.
    The LL said they want to emphasize on healing, this doesn't mean solely focusing on healing.

    Honestly, I think the wings are kinda cute? For me they were a selling point to play my WHM again but I can understand why some people would dislike them.
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    Simhqe's Avatar
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    Leashii Hiqoh
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 16
    Quote Originally Posted by Maka8295 View Post
    Is anyone else really worried about what's happening to WHM? I've mained WHM for as long as i've played this game and I'm getting seriously bummed out about the aesthetic changes. My first big problem is the wings, I just can't stand how tacky they look, they won't look good with anything that isn't a white wedding dress and not everyone wants to look like that... what happened to the more utilitarian aesthetic of the old artifact armor? Its just dresses and frills now... My problem is that these wings only play to that one aesthetic.

    Lastly, white mage never really had any damage identity outside of holy, until FF14 where we got stone and aero, now that they seem to be taking it away what's going to be left of the conjurer aesthetic? To me that's the equivalent of taking away Black Mage's fire and blizzard.

    Sorry if this seems a bit ranty, I needed a place to dump my stress. I don't want to lose my favorite class
    Im sorry, but what wings?
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    Player DonovanLifeweaver's Avatar
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    Vormav Tengille
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 80
    basicly you guys complained so much they finally gave in to the stupid demand of the crybabies.... the only people we have to blame is those who ever forced a pacifier in the mouth of the new generation of mmo players and those who never stood up..... if people didnt want those changes they should have made it known in the first place..... but complaining over every stupid little things is the new real life trend... you guys had it coming... cant say old schoolers never warned you about protecting what you have.
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    Last edited by DonovanLifeweaver; 05-25-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DonovanLifeweaver View Post
    basicly you guys complained so much they finally gave in to the stupid demand of the crybabies.... the only people we have to blame is those who ever forced a pacifier in the mouth of the new generation of mmo players and those who never stood up..... if people didnt want those changes they should have made it known in the first place..... but complaining over every stupid little things is the new real life trend... you guys had it coming... cant say old schoolers never warned you about protecting what you have.
    After reading all the whining on here, I've got to agree.
    Let's wait until the media embargo is lifted as see the actual picture.
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I don't know what to say.
    It's hard to judge from the combat video when it's not dps spell.

    Furthermore, Yoshida give us again very few informations.
    Can we believe that a "real" rework of healers did 1 page compared to tank adjustements which did 3 pages ?
    And, the last point about healer dps has been skipped completely ?

    Since long SE seems to not care about healer, and they continue again today.

    I'am not convinced at all by what we got at the live letter, existing issue leading to the balance between our 3 healers didn't seem to be adressed (even if they have taken a new direction with the "pure healer" thing).
    For now, I'am waiting again that they justify their "no 4th healer excuse" by showing a deep and good rework of our role...
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    Last edited by Ceasaria; 05-25-2019 at 08:24 PM.

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