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  1. #21
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    Niqote's Avatar
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maka8295 View Post
    My first big problem is the wings, I just can't stand how tacky they look, they won't look good with anything that isn't a white wedding dress and not everyone wants to look like that... what happened to the more utilitarian aesthetic of the old artifact armor? Its just dresses and frills now... My problem is that these wings only play to that one aesthetic.
    I love WHM, I always have...

    But seriously are we being sponsored by the Sanctum of the Twelve? Bride Mage?

    Like you, I also hate the tacky wings.
    We should have something more like Kuribu wings imho, since they are not only already modelled, but are at least somewhat in the WHM lore.

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    Last edited by Niqote; 05-24-2019 at 11:27 PM.

  2. #22
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    For me, it just seems like they missed the mark with everything.

    WHMs wanted more elemenal aesthetics, but we got more holy aesthetics.

    WHM complained about not having enough mobility, so they gave us a instacast HEAL instead of an instant cast dps spell.

    WHM complained about utility. We seemingly got nothing.

    And now all healers are moving towards pure healing. What does that mean for us? I didn't see any barrier effects in the job action video so I'm worried that everyone will be able to heal like WHM but we still can't use strong barriers.
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  3. #23
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I have to agree. In a bid to give WHM 'more identity' it seems like they doubled down on it's worst facets and blandest aesthetics.
    No Protect or Shell, more 'Divine' stuff, more 'pure heals', it already has instant heals so we get one more instant heal? Big whoop.
    And those wings... would fit much better on a SCH surely....

    Unless they intend to give us Geomancer in 6.0, I'd rather they didn't lose the elements.
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  4. #24
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    AngelicSnake's Avatar
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    Miko Lasch
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I kind of hope they didn’t get rid of stone and aero but if they did I hope they give it to geomancers one day. I know the whole ast questline was about how they are basically two sides of the same coin but if they are truly removing stone and aero then they could totally just give them to geomancer with some other elemental things
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  5. #25
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I do wonder what their vision is here, since it doesn't seem to be very clear at all. I personally am on board with healers being actual healers instead of the hybrid dps (I know I'm in the minority here), but that doesn't seem to be what this is. They take away a classic, staple buff and drop in some insta-cast heal that WHM didn't really need anyway. There was enough 'ono' stuff in the arsenal already without this addition...

    I guess we'll just have to wait and see. This is one of the reasons I wish they weren't so against public testing servers. Some of these changes you just know are going to be massively broken and won't be used the way the developers thought they would be used. Strap in for a full year of adjustments, folks.
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  6. #26
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    Kaelah's Avatar
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    Kaelah Tae
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I kinda like the wings personally. I'll be gutted if they remove our offensive spells though, we are already very much pure heal, don't take away our little unique dps. I understand that they cannot just keep adding more and more spells though, not enough hot bar space hehe.
    (1)

    ~Quit moping, get hoping~

  7. #27
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 99
    As usual, I seem to be late to the party. Would someone please direct me to where I can see my new wings?

    That's assuming white mages get wings even if they are still in earlier content. Would you believe I'm still on the beginning quests in Stormblood?

    Stoopid health. *sigh*
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  8. #28
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    Athaleiya Eclesiance
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeromon View Post
    The wings could look better I'll be honest. Seems like it will work with certain glamours and ruin the look of most things. I wish there was a way to change the color of the wings, but I know the possibility of that is as likely as a real damage rotation for healers.

    Anyway White Mages seems to have completely shaken off the Conjuror aesthetic and gone full Holy Mage (Holy as in the adj. not the spell), which is fine and fitting I suppose. Its still very visible so I have no qualms about it. But looking at the other healing spells shown is it just me or does every spell blend together? Like everything is just a mess of white light. Its not bad per se, but then I see what AST has going on and I can't help being really bothered.
    I agree that the spells all kind of blend together. SE is kind of in a bind since Holy/Light magic is usually presented through certain "religious themes..." (hence the Angel Wings) but they can't go showing Christian crosses and other religious symbols so it's just more large messes of White lights. Though they're leaning more heavily on Flowers now in lieu of this.

    You could interpret it as, Holy/Light magic is so volatile and powerful it's hard to give it defined structures (The more structure you give it though, the more effort it takes and the more potent it is, like Holy) and using it is more of a stressful, violent channeling of its power than a simple spell conjuration...

    (Kinda sounds more badass like this honestly. Like even though your face is calm while casting Holy, inside you're biting your tongue and violently channeling and packaging Light magic into the Holy spell).
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    Last edited by Coltvoyance; 05-25-2019 at 12:59 AM.
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  9. #29
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    Taylor Swiftsong
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I don't know, I can get behind wings and holy magick aesthetics given the back history with Amdapor. What I can't get behind is a lack of support skills for another 2-3 years.
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  10. #30
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I LOVE the new WHM aesthetic!

    Nothing should be holier than a WHM, and I never really accepted CNJ elemental skills. I'm only happy if they removed Stone.

    I can agree with some little details like the wings of light are a bit too much and the lilies shouldn't be blue, purple is anything but overall I love it.

    Furthermore freeing the elementalist healer aesthetic opens the doors to Geomancer or Druid or whatever.
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