How do we feel about the tank changes?

[Khalithar]

I wanted tank stance gone entirely for all of them which they didn't do, however this change is the next best thing to that so I'll take it.

[Kaedan]

I wanted tank stance gone entirely for all of them which they didn't do, however this change is the next best thing to that so I'll take it.

Tank stance as a concept is gone. What they are calling "tank stance" is just an enmity toggle.

[Khalithar]

Tank stance as a concept is gone. What they are calling "tank stance" is just an enmity toggle.

You misunderstand, I wanted that gone as well. I wanted the enmity baked in to the classes with a rework on how provoke works to make it more in line with other mmo’s so that tank swapping could still be done and set with a voke and a shirk.

Rather they free up two hotbar slots instead of one.

[Giubba]

It won't. DPS will deal bigger damage (assuming equivalent skill) but with less defense and cooldowns.

Maybe. At the moment I really cannot imagine how the gameplay will shift considering the broad changes that they will come

[mosaicex]

You misunderstand, I wanted that gone as well. I wanted the enmity baked in to the classes with a rework on how provoke works to make it more in line with other mmo’s so that tank swapping could still be done and set with a voke and a shirk.

Rather they free up two hotbar slots instead of one.

What happens when there are 3 tanks like in 24 man? Do we let them fight over aggro with no way to control it?

[Khalithar]

What happens when there are 3 tanks like in 24 man? Do we let them fight over aggro with no way to control it?

It’s why I mentioned changing provoke and shirk and adjusting the way aggro works. All they would have to do is make voke function like it does in swtor and it’s a non-issue.

For the uninformed, the way provoke works in swtor is:

1. The cooldown is around 12-15 seconds.

2. It puts you at 30% ahead of whoever is at the top of threat list. But here’s the genius of it, that also includes yourself. So every provoke puts your threat 30% above where it was. It lets you spike your threat exponentially and if you have to swap, the other tank uses their provoke. Makes aggro a non-issue.

3. The idea that you wouldn’t be able to control aggro in a 24man? I’m skeptical about that. But I’m also perfectly ok with the community either adapting or dying. I know it’s easy to be cynical about it but I think it could be done.

[Dualblade]

Rage of Halone has not been removed, judging by datamining. You'll have the same 1-50 combo experience. It's quite possible it will upgrade into Royal Authority later on, though.

Even if it was removed they most likely would move atleast one of the other combos into earlier content, say getting Goring Blade at 26 instead of 54 as an example.

[Kuroka]

Uhm you sure can, ask him to stop it or else just let him die?

[mosaicex]

Uhm you sure can, ask him to stop it or else just let him die?

Ask him to stop what? Doing anything at all and just AFK?

[Mixt]

It does sound like that is what she's saying.

"No, stop attacking you other tanks! You are generating enmity! Go AFK!"

Total chaos.


...Oh dear, RIP low level paladins.
No combo at all until 60, just Fast Blade Riot Blade spam the whole way.
Yay...