Regarding Hrothgar and Benchmark

[Halivel]

This is rather disappointing, though. I wonder if we will have more options in the launch build.

-*remembers how people hoped about au ra having sticked horns+faces only because it's benchmark and having more options on release-* .......doubtful, tbh. /sigh

[Renthas]

-*remembers how people hoped about au ra having sticked horns+faces only because it's benchmark and having more options on release-* .......doubtful, tbh. /sigh

I am doubtful as well. I will still roll a Hrothgar, though, as I've been wanting a beast race since day 1, and I love lions. Plus GNB's ability names...they really didn't just tack GNB onto Hrothgar's lore, they made it really really fitting.

[Halivel]

Plus GNB's ability names...they really didn't just tack GNB onto Hrothgar's lore, they made it really really fitting.

My eyes catched only "Rough divide", which is a first Squall's limit break. And well, Hrothgars as job creatures are ff8 reference, too, so not surprised about it at all.

[Alacran]

"Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization"
I'm gonna refer you to Cidel's signature, can't sacrifice what you never had, or was never promised. :^)

This is rather disappointing, though. I wonder if we will have more options in the launch build.

When one says race, the expectation is that both members of that race are represented. Official lore exist that expressly states that there are a male and female gender. Also, it has be stated in the the 3.0 lore panel that the WoL exist apart from lore restrictions. For example there is only one WoL but all players are the WoL the suspension of disbelief is needed to appreciate the story as it's presented.

While it is true Male Viera was never specifically promised to the player base, the out right intent of not saying it was not to be implemented is a lie of omission betraying known expectation.

As stated by Yoshi P himself, they made a beast race no one heard of to appease a portion of the player base, due to this being the possible last race brought to the game. Now, the half measure has failed and demand for the missing genders is at all time high. They have effectively doubled their work load unintentionally.

Hrothgar was a mistake in my opinion due to this half measure having the opposite effect of what they intended. Can you honestly say the limited options given in their customization was worth the wait? Even if you can defend it plenty of others are very disappointed with the face/hair lock. It even places a pale over the possibility of female Hrothgar, what limitations will they have?

I may feel the race it's self is a wretched joke of an offering, but players still deserve to have the option of Male and Female Hrothgar.

[zeylos]

Called it then, laughing now. I was never a fan of Hrothgar, the fact their face/hair are tied shows them to be little more than mask wearing Rogadyne with tails and bad posture. Implementation of Aura didn't separate horns, so i see no reason to expect a change with Hrothgar. I will not continue to call the dev team lazy, however i will see this as further proof Hrothgar was a mistake. Sadly Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization.

After seeing this I must say I'd rather have male viera 1000 times over male hrot. Male hrot are soooooooo unfinished and we can only hope they make them better for launch

[Nestama]

After seeing this I must say I'd rather have male viera 1000 times over male hrot. Male hrot are soooooooo unfinished and we can only hope they make them better for launch

Lack of hairstyle choice now suddenly means a race is unfinished. By that logic, female Viera are also unfinished due to the limited hairstyles they can choose (I checked the HW benchmark and Au Ra females had the same amount of options that were available back then).

[zeylos]

Lack of hairstyle choice now suddenly means a race is unfinished. By that logic, female Viera are also unfinished due to the limited hairstyles they can choose (I checked the HW benchmark and Au Ra females had the same amount of options that were available back then).

Seriously, I'm glad you like them, but they literally have 8 hair options and 2 of them per face. Also, both of the races are unfinished and they will be that way until they get the missing genders. Like I said, we aren't getting 2 new full races, we are getting 2 new halves of races. You can disagree ofc, since after all this is just my opinion. I will continue to support for male viera and I dont really care about male hrot so if u like em I'm glad for u I guess

[Wolfyboy]

Lack of hairstyle choice now suddenly means a race is unfinished. By that logic, female Viera are also unfinished due to the limited hairstyles they can choose (I checked the HW benchmark and Au Ra females had the same amount of options that were available back then).

I'll get a better idea once I get home and actually get to look at this stuff personally; however, aren't half of the female viera's hairstyles just slightly modified versions of their other half?

[Nestama]

I'll get a better idea once I get home and actually get to look at this stuff personally; however, aren't half of the female viera's hairstyles just slightly modified versions of their other half?

Looking back at them, yeah. They pretty much have 9 hairstyles (the other 8 being the same hairstyle, but with a tiny difference). While they have the advantage of not having hairstyles tied to faces, they only really have one more hairstyle over the Hrothgar.

[Raskbuck]

Called it then, laughing now. I was never a fan of Hrothgar, the fact their face/hair are tied shows them to be little more than mask wearing Rogadyne with tails and bad posture. Implementation of Aura didn't separate horns, so i see no reason to expect a change with Hrothgar. I will not continue to call the dev team lazy, however i will see this as further proof Hrothgar was a mistake. Sadly Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization.

It's people like you that makes me wish we never get male Viera in the first place. All this incessant crying and whining while directing that hate towards Hrothgar is really petty.

Male Viera were not "sacrificed" in favor of Hrothgar. Not only it was the other way around, but we also have no idea what they even look like. They don't "exist" aside for a couple of mentions in lore.