Thread: Rdm in 5.0?

Are they really going to put a 5 min cd on verraise for rdm? I was trying to find out if there is anything else going to be changed for rdm but so far no luck. Is it possible that they are going to add more utility(s) to the job?

5min cd on Verraise? That's higher than or same as Benediction I think, but nah just wait for the live letter and we'll know for sure what is happening.

That's the only thing I have heard so far, we are getting the dancer job as a utility dps so I hope that means rdm can deal more dmg after the expansion. If that cd is the only change, then I guess instead of "rez bot", we are just gonna be "bots" later

That would be incredibly awful, do any of you guys have any mana left over after raising both healers and a dps? Cause yeah, I sure dont

I heard this:

RDM :
> Didn't get much lol
> Dia and Fazzle, 2 minute cd, tied to whether you cast Verholy or Verflare
> Dia is a trick attack so you'll always want to use it
> Fazzle makes the target do less damage
> Verraise on a 60sec cd, no mp cost, instacast by default
> Corps-a-corps and Displacement no longer have potency, just movement skills
> Manafication cd adjusted to 110 seconds.
> Composure, new skill, lets you cast Verholy and Verflare right after another once melee combo is completed???
> Leads to Temper, triple attack with your sword, have to be in melee, super flashy.

sounds neat! personally speaking that dual cast ver-raise sometime really put us in a vague position. Its nice to rez ppl during raids especially in savage prog parties, but once past that and everything is about clearing, having rdm rez 3 ppl during the fight can be a net dps loss on 4 ppl, but we still have to do it cuz thats the best combo for us ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
On a side note, I firmly believe we deserve more respect instead of someone saying "rdm needs to deal more dmg" after rezing 2 or more ppl. I am a proud rez bot after all (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)

Originally Posted by LeoLupinos

I heard this:

RDM :
> Didn't get much lol
> Dia and Fazzle, 2 minute cd, tied to whether you cast Verholy or Verflare
> Dia is a trick attack so you'll always want to use it
> Fazzle makes the target do less damage
> Verraise on a 60sec cd, no mp cost, instacast by default
> Corps-a-corps and Displacement no longer have potency, just movement skills
> Manafication cd adjusted to 110 seconds.
> Composure, new skill, lets you cast Verholy and Verflare right after another once melee combo is completed???
> Leads to Temper, triple attack with your sword, have to be in melee, super flashy.

Really hope this isn't true since a lot of that sounds... not great.

I mean, I don't mind removing potency from movement skills and adding a CD to Verraise (5 minutes was excessive but 1-2 min sounds reasonable).

But, tying different utilities to Verholy and Verflare so you have to favor one or the other? Adding another finisher to build up to like Demi-Bahamut? No mention of improving AoE, MP recovery, or personal survivability?
No Verwater or Verblizzard?

Originally Posted by Archwizard

But, tying different utilities to Verholy and Verflare so you have to favor one or the other? Adding another finisher to build up to like Demi-Bahamut? No mention of improving AoE, MP recovery, or personal survivability?
No Verwater or Verblizzard?

It depends on the recast time. That Dia would force a Verholy every two minutes, that's it. I think you can prepare your mana accordignly, and even then, missing a proc would be worth a debuff on the target for the raid.
Same for Composure, you just articulate the skills once everytime the skill is available. I don't see a problem there.

I'd be more concerned with no MP solution.

i dont mind with verraise being on long cooldown to be honest, just to show that we can raise but not actually the expert on it like whm does