Unbelievable Rudeness!

[SerLuke]

you missed my point, mate.

Well, I have autism spectrum disorder so would you mind explaining your point to me?

[Nora_of_Mira]

Well, I have autism spectrum disorder so would you mind explaining your point to me?

It would be absurd to ask people their age before talking to them, like imagine going "hey are you under 18?" as an introduction (assuming you're over 18 as most players are). You would just come off as a creep very quickly. My point was to highlight the absurdity of the proposed suggestion "hey guys, we should be a bit nicer because kids could be playing this game". How do we actively know who kids are? we cant, because any identifier would be instantly problematic. that was the joke point i was making.

So we're back to what you said, "why cant you just not be rude?". To answer you honestly, I try really hard not be be rude in-game because I treat it the same way I treat being in public locations IRL. But the thing is with MMOs is that its sort of a blend between a personal game and a public social area, where you kind of treat it like "this is my fun/relaxation time, i can do w/e i want" and a public social area where anyone can come and go as they please there's sort of a "public responsibility" to behave. Its a fine line to walk if you want to treat it like both and NOT come off as rude to someone eventually, you cannot control how people will interpret your words or actions. Im getting off track..it was just a joke.

[Jimmymagic]

Threads like this only exist in ffxiv community

You must not play very many MMOs. ESO, WoW, Neverwinter are way worse with threads like this.

[Paladinleeds]

It would be absurd to ask people their age before talking to them, like imagine going "hey are you under 18?" as an introduction (assuming you're over 18 as most players are). You would just come off as a creep very quickly. My point was to highlight the absurdity of the proposed suggestion "hey guys, we should be a bit nicer because kids could be playing this game". How do we actively know who kids are? we cant, because any identifier would be instantly problematic. that was the joke point i was making.

So we're back to what you said, "why cant you just not be rude?". To answer you honestly, I try really hard not be be rude in-game because I treat it the same way I treat being in public locations IRL. But the thing is with MMOs is that its sort of a blend between a personal game and a public social area, where you kind of treat it like "this is my fun/relaxation time, i can do w/e i want" and a public social area where anyone can come and go as they please there's sort of a "public responsibility" to behave. Its a fine line to walk if you want to treat it like both and NOT come off as rude to someone eventually, you cannot control how people will interpret your words or actions. Im getting off track..it was just a joke.

Exactly. I try my best to be very polite and well meaning in everything I say, but sometimes I just lose my cool and I get angry. Not ToS breaching angry, but I'll just ragequit a duty usually. I'm trying to hold back against an ex actually that I met through this game, she's done some not very nice things to me since we broke up (to the point that she was told off by the officers of her FC for how she'd acted, and a mutual friend of ours is still angry at her like 3 weeks on). I want to rip her a new one, but trying to stay civil instead.

As for the OP... I suggest supervision.I would go as far as to suggest that ANYONE under 25 (yes, twenty five) is supervised by a parent (if possible, else a trusted friend). Even at 28, there are times I find myself clamouring for a friend to run duties with to have my back.

[SilverObi]

As for the OP... I suggest supervision.I would go as far as to suggest that ANYONE under 25 (yes, twenty five) is supervised by a parent (if possible, else a trusted friend). Even at 28, there are times I find myself clamouring for a friend to run duties with to have my back.

Not everyone has social anxiety that bad or worries that much about what people say to them online, so that stance is a biiiiit extreme. Unless you're having a laugh with us which ok fair. This kid just got a taste of the internet and frankly surprised it took them until 13 to get it. Have you heard the stuff 10 year olds say to each other on Minecraft or Xbox Live? Going off the deep end like this parent has only enforces their daughter's inability to handle jerks which is a skill everyone will need or life will be miserable. It sucks that it happened but its a good chance for good parenting and a lesson about dealing with other people.

[Paladinleeds]

Not everyone has social anxiety that bad or worries that much about what people say to them online, so that stance is a biiiiit extreme. Unless you're having a laugh with us which ok fair. This kid just got a taste of the internet and frankly surprised it took them until 13 to get it. Have you heard the stuff 10 year olds say to each other on Minecraft or Xbox Live? Going off the deep end like this parent has only enforces their daughter's inability to handle jerks which is a skill everyone will need or life will be miserable. It sucks that it happened but its a good chance for good parenting and a lesson about dealing with other people.

Perhaps my stance is considered on the more "extreme" side. However, I feel it matters in the case of this, going off my own experiences. With the rise of things like soxial anxiety and such though, I feel it better to be safe than sorry. If someone can handle iot better than parents before then, then more power to them, and by all means, exceptions can be made. But with the supervision, you also use that time to showcase how to handle the situation better in the future.

[Vahlnir]

Perhaps my stance is considered on the more "extreme" side. However, I feel it matters in the case of this, going off my own experiences. With the rise of things like soxial anxiety and such though, I feel it better to be safe than sorry. If someone can handle iot better than parents before then, then more power to them, and by all means, exceptions can be made. But with the supervision, you also use that time to showcase how to handle the situation better in the future.

I've had social anxiety most of my life...but since the games I play are mostly MMOs I had to learn how to deal with people being jerks. Others should be doing the same and/or teaching others to do the same. The best solution is to simply not give them the reaction they want. Going to extremes doesn't really help anyone. In fact, what you are suggesting wouldn't really solve anything. It would only be delaying the inevitable...which is people needing to learn how to handle themselves on the internet. I've had bad days where a random jerk got under my skin but I didn't really dwell on it. I just walked away, cooled down and got back to it. I won't touch the parenting thing like others have brought up with a ten foot pole though. Not my kid, not my place to say.