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    Deceptus Keelon
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    You can't control what others do but you can control how you react to it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    The only solution to this is to disable chat.
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    Oh if they're diablos I will run things with you and your daughter op, if you want to set up a group and not party with randos.
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    I wasn't there, and forum post doesn't really tell much expect "started blaming her", which is quite normal situation.

    When I went for my first run in The Orbonne Monastery, I had no idea of it's tactics and caused us to wipe on 2nd last boss encounter. Some people reacted to it, I apologized and told that it was my first time there - afterwards we downed it.
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    A small part of me feels this didn't actually happen as I've seen plenty stories similar to it.

    Nevertheless, interactions like that is bound to happen on an MMO. Once she's calmed down just encourage her to move on from it and try again, a bad interaction shouldn't mean giving up on a game you enjoy.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattoedEnigma View Post
    A small part of me feels this didn't actually happen as I've seen plenty stories similar to it.
    Your first reaction is to assume they're lying? Really? What is there to gain by lying about something like that? To make Real Gamers like you look bad?

    It's kind of disturbing that if people aren't blaming OP or their daughter for what happened, they're saying it's completely fake anyway. Holy crap.
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    Blade Belisaire
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    Girlfriend started playing recently and its her first MMO and so far so good. I've told her though, someday, she's going to run into someone who is going to tell her she is terrible and needs to quit the game or worse. I've told her the best thing to do in that instance is just leave the duty and forget about it. There's no point in trying to debate with those people b/c they get their thrills by insulting others. It's not like you lose much for bailing, but you do deprive the other person from being able to continue to insult you.
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    As someone who grew up with the internet and had to figure this out, I actually think you have an opportunity to have a good talk with your daughter here.

    There will always, always be rude people out there. Right now she's encountering them in a video game, but odds are one day she'll be encountering them at work, while driving, at school, on vacation... sometimes she'll probably even be rude herself. Occasionally it might be someone overall decent taking their foul mood out on innocent bystanders. Occasionally it's someone who would find an excuse no matter what. Some people just aren't mature enough to handle mild inconvenience with grace.

    At the end of the day, it's important to be able to say ask yourself "and why should I value YOUR opinion?" People lately have been getting this idea that respect is something you're entitled to, but it's not. Basic decency and human dignity are, but respect is different. Respect is something you earn. If someone clearly has a stick up their ass, you can disregard their opinion. Or you can see if there's anything remotely useful, take that, throw out the rest. There are too many people in the world who all hold conflicting opinions to take everything everyone says to heart all the time.

    It helps to look at guides. It helps to say you're new at the beginning of fights. Even with that though, messing up sometimes is inevitable and encountering snotty people is inevitable.

    Dealing with jerks in a game is a relatively safe way to do it, compared to at a job for example. Personally, I'd suggest your daughter not give up on an MMO she enjoys but have a plan for herself in the event that she encounters someone like that going forward.
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    Thanks for the suggestions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandallwyn View Post
    I was watching my 13 year old daughter playing a trial boss. And some mouthy little entitled twerp started blaming her cuz she was panicking a little and the party wiped. She was in tears and left. Now she\\'s saying she never wants to play again.
    She\\'s always been a bit sensitive and shy but enjoys final Fantasy games even the old ones I grew up playing. She was very proud of herself for getting into stormblood and kept saying she was looking forward to the new expansion. Her confidence level was starting to show and it was a great way for us to do something together.
    You rude players out there need to stop expecting others to be like you! Be understanding! you don\\'t have most of the facts and can\\'t judge them nor blame them. You do not know what is going on in other people\\'s environments, various distractions occur, and stop freaking out cuz your video game wasn\\'t perfect.
    She is far too young to be confronted with the violence of the internet. It's a bit like a teacher-less recreation course, the size of the world.

    Well, there are people who play WoW at a very young age, but sooner or later it must have happened unless you just play with her in the closed circle of your friends and FC members.

    And as said above, she is confronted with pimply teenagers in search of themselves. And to the less young, who looks for performance.

    I do not have to teach you how to educate your daughter, but it's like playing with teens and adults in a public square. And nobody to do the police.
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