why i quit before reaching endgame (feedback from a new player)

[Catwho]

OK, lets talk about SE's only other MMO Final Fantasy XI. They didn't force full MSQ completion on you. Instead of comparing single-player games to an MMO, perhaps try comparing two things in the same genre.

If the story is the main show of XIV, what on earth do you do after it's all completed? Sit there idly twirling your thumbs? There is A LOT of other content outside of the Story (which really only lasts a short bit of time). MMOs pull players with varied interests, some will like story, some are here for other things. And there is nothing wrong with that.

What? Of course they did, at least back in classic XI. You wanted to play in {sky} or {sea} then you had to do the MSQ at least up until the final chapter. I remember having to join a static to get through the Chains of Promathia expansion because there was no duty finder, either.

[Elnidfse]

this is incorrect. He says how they handle the story is bad. Ffxiv story is more like a visual novel with less choices and more busywork than a classic jrpg. His complaint was not that story existed, but how its incorporated

Oh man I’m going to hate myself for getting involved in this but, interactivity? Classic JRPG? What era are you even speaking about. The like 5 out of near under 100 on the NES to SNES that have anything other than forced segments with decisions that ultimately mean little. The deep decisions that drive you to all 1 ending on a NG run of parasite eve or Musashi. The dash towards the finish of Lufia 2. Your infinite ‘but thou must select yes” of pretty much every dragon quest and it’s spinoffs? I can think of maybe 11 jrpgs out of a not small number I’ve played that even cares what input you have. Obviously not including most FFs.
Most FFs in general offer the interactivity of a visual novel that lets you splice up monotony with some side dungeons as long as that game isn’t ix.

The ‘problem, with xivs storytelling has nothing to do with interactivity or story. It’s the delegations of tasks that become a major pain in the rear. Especially that space of time between the end of ARR and HW. So you’ve blown up a weapon, you’ve saved the realm, you are the most awesome person ever, and then they put you back on shift and you go back to your part time job of being a mailman. Having to go through 6 loading screens to deliver somebodies mail is infuriating. The absolute only reason I can’t get my long time friends on board is because of that awful awful space between ARR and HW where all the plot is actually super interesting but it feels awful to get to the points where you can engage with it.
Take this here
Go over here
Beat up a Ifrit again
Return to the waking sands.

Puh-lease
Somebody quitting because of burn out isn’t that shocking. But we’re still like an expansion or two away from out very own cata tier facelift

[EvalcieChevallier]

Join a story driven MMO and you get story. Sorry that you didn't enjoy your time here. I would however like to point out that you can skip each and every cutscene you come across.

castrum meridianum and Praetorium would like to speak with you

[Skivvy]

What? Of course they did, at least back in classic XI. You wanted to play in {sky} or {sea} then you had to do the MSQ at least up until the final chapter. I remember having to join a static to get through the Chains of Promathia expansion because there was no duty finder, either.

Pardon my pasting of my previous comment, but please see below:

Dynamis required only rank 6 in your home nation (out of 10). Sky access is granted on quest 13 out of 18. Sea is available on 7.something out of 8.something (this is one of the later access points). But then you also had content like assaults and Nyzul that unlocked at mission 3 out of 48. Also, gear is not factoring in here - of course you would have to dive deeper if you wanted to get the latest/greatest BIS items - but the point is you didn't HAVE to if you didn't want to.

As I stated before, flexibility in an MMO is never a bad thing.

My point in comparing XI's story handling with XIV is that XI never forced you to complete every past expansion to get into current content as XIV does. You could specifically unlock Sea if that's what you wanted to do, or maybe you just wanted to do Assaults. That was fine! Yes, you had to complete missions up to a certain point within a single expansion (some also had rank/level/cross-expansion reqs as well, but not all) but it never required a full completion of all previous storylines. Completing a storyline did come with additional rewards, but full-completion was left up to the player's choice.

And no offense, but I don't really see how duty finder comes into this particular as we're not discussing the difficulty of XI vs. XIV.

Just to reiterate what I mentioned in other comments, I am not asking for XIV to simply adapt XI's style of mission handling. I am also not asking them to take away the large story. My mentioning of XI was more to show the people who are simply going "LALALA THIS IS A STORY-BASED GAME, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT??!" that SE has indeed used other methods before, while also keeping a huge story in the game. It's not like 100% full completion is the only option that could work in this game.

[RareItems]

FFXIV is not for everyone lol. Also, i'm with the OP, if i have to start over, i would prob quit too than do all those boring quests again xD. But then again there's the MSQ skip on the Mogstation for 25 bucks? All those skips on the Mogstation are worth it, maybe wait till 5.0 and an even better skip potion will be for sale .

A Optional and Free ARR MSQ Story skip and lvl 60 Jump boost for 1 class would be nice .

[savageink]

castrum meridianum and Praetorium would like to speak with you

The undersized and unsynced party options would like to speak to you.

[Skivvy]

The undersized and unsynced party options would like to speak to you.

...The CSs are still unskippable :3

[savageink]

...The CSs are still unskippable :3

since when?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

since when?

Since Jan of 2018

[savageink]

Since Jan of 2018

Lol! Well, the last time I ran it in a PF group it was skippable. They really want people to watch those. :P