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  1. #11
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    I honestly don't understand why selling clears for gil isn't bannable. (I understand these are probably RMT clears)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    I see this all the time and still don't get how this bothers people. Just ignore it lol
    It's like seeing bots run around. It sours the game.
    Every once in a while I see someone breaking the rules and it ruins the thing I love just a bit for me.
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    Because square have their heads in the sand when it comes to this thing. They probably do believe they take it to discord where players discuss how much Gil they can pay for a clear. What else would they discuss? Ofc kind stranger ill happily leave you my wallet while I go away, how kind of you to offer to look after t for me. I know you'll never run off with it and steal my money. *eyeroll*

    If they are taking it to outside sources chances are RL money is also involved. Paypal makes it really easy to transfer money from one party to another. I highly doubt people setting this kind of stuff up outside of the game are using in-game currency.
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  3. #13
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    It's really too easy to put two and two together to know that if they're requiring transactions to be conducted outside of the game that there's real money involved.

    With how overly protective SE tends to be of its players when enforcing the ToS (IE, refusing to offer details on why infractions are issued), you'd think they'd want to take steps to prevent people from potentially getting scammed out of real money from ads like this.

    Legit or not, it's not something that belongs in the PF or XIV in general.
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  4. #14
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I honestly don't understand why selling clears for gil isn't bannable. (I understand these are probably RMT clears)
    It completely devalues the rewards in my opinion. I've never once looked at someone with the titles/weapons from something like the Ultimates and thought "That's a top tier player", my first thought is always "I wonder how much that cost them", and I'm usually right on that hunch given I then proceed to watch most of them fail basic mechanics in even the simplest content...

    It's really rather sad, actually... Such rewards are just a meme in my eyes now...
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    That Primal DC? That third listing is always up in Aether DC.

    Account piloting and RMT are not allowed, but as has already been stated, SE will look the other way if specifics are not discussed in game, because not too many are doing it. Feel free to get in on the action until SE decides to issue a warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    That Primal DC? That third listing is always up in Aether DC.

    Account piloting and RMT are not allowed, but as has already been stated, SE will look the other way if specifics are not discussed in game, because not too many are doing it. Feel free to get in on the action until SE decides to issue a warning.
    The people who actually buy into the prices these people tend to offer honestly have issues if they're willing to pay so much for ego bloating and a false sense of achievement.

    I've seen them regularly expecting at least $100 dollars even for simple things like a clear of a savage raid. and close to a thousand for ultimate clears.

    The saddest thing is that these people are under absolutely no obligation to actually go through with helping you get a clear once you pay them, yet people are still willing to risk forking over real money to complete strangers for the prestige of a fancy weapon and a title.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-21-2019 at 09:41 PM.

  7. #17
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Why don't SE get a GM disguised as a player into each of these sellers to see if they sell it by gil or money? Is it that dificult to join their discord and catch them in the act?
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLupinos View Post
    Why don't SE get a GM disguised as a player into each of these sellers to see if they sell it by gil or money? Is it that dificult to join their discord and catch them in the act?
    As has already been said, they don't take external data into account.
    Once a GM joins a discord, they can't be absolutely certain it's connected to the account advertising in game.
    It might seem like common sense, but that's life.
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  9. #19
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    Shouldn't it be enough that the account in game is advertising a RMT service? They might not be able to get them on actively RMTing, but they'd clearly be advertising a RMT service and that should be punishable, no?

    Dumb question, I already know the answer, since RMT bots can sit there and shout all day long with seemingly nothing done about it.
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    Some of the most prominent Streamers / Community figures are active members of groups that participate in run selling and RMT lol. The storm that cracking down would spawn would be unimaginable.
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