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    Mocita Magicita
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    How is something like this still allowed to continue?

    As the title suggests. Why do this(or advertise for other services) in Duty Roulette? And should this be allowed to continue?

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    Personally, I don't have a problem with people selling clears/etc for GIL, however, I DO have a problem with them being listed under the "Roulette" section and not under the "Other" section, where they belong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsane View Post
    Personally, I don't have a problem with people selling clears/etc for GIL, however, I DO have a problem with them being listed under the "Roulette" section and not under the "Other" section, where they belong.
    You think they negotiate prices in discord because they're selling clears for Gil?
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    I don't think it's allowed, ofc i could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X View Post
    I don't think it's allowed, ofc i could be wrong.
    If players are trading services for Gil then it's generally ok as it's a currency (provided by SE) to use in-game, hence why you can trade it between players. Though if the players are expecting something else as payment (i.e. real money) then that isn't allowed, but as the negotiations generally take place outside the game such as in Discord, it's out of SE's hands.
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    They advertise in the duty roulette section cause it appears at the top of the party finder if that’s part of the question.

    But yea technically you can’t mislead people in party finder, but it’s debatable if this qualifies for that cause they are clearly selling stuff, and I doubt it’s ever enforced.

    If it was for real money not Gil then it would be insta banned but from what I know that’s not the case.

    Personally it’s always sorta rubbed me the wrong way for a number of reasons, but idk don’t think there is much anyone can do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkplanet View Post
    They advertise in the duty roulette section cause it appears at the top of the party finder if that’s part of the question.

    But yea technically you can’t mislead people in party finder, but it’s debatable if this qualifies for that cause they are clearly selling stuff, and I doubt it’s ever enforced.

    If it was for real money not Gil then it would be insta banned but from what I know that’s not the case.

    Personally it’s always sorta rubbed me the wrong way for a number of reasons, but idk don’t think there is much anyone can do
    The issue is that SE doesn't take outside evidence into account. You could have full logs of them detailing the monetary transaction from that discord conversation, nailing it as RMT, and they will still disregard it because you can't 'prove' it's the players in question. Which in some ways I get. But at the same time their strict adherence to that rule often allows this kind of thing to slip through the cracks because so long as you don't admit it in game their hands are apparently tied.
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    Sors Tyche
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    1. They don't overtly say they are RMT, they don't say they are giving content carries/boosts for irl money/cash.

    2. SE task force probably aren't equipped with tracking such things, it should be as simply as seeing 'this account cleared ultimate in under 20 pulls, this seems pretty sketchy, let's investigate' but I assume they don't have the actual systems to detect this suprise to suprise.

    3. SE don't care, boosters or boosted account have never gotten banned, I genuinely haven't ever seen or known of a case in 3 years.

    4. you can't track IPs reliably. VPNs or non-static ips aren't really bannable. It's naive to think boosters don't mask their ip.

    It's sad really because WoW recently banned an entire guild of week first mythic players for boosting others and they slapped them all with 18 months - 2 year bans and the community loved them for it. We deal with the polar opposite.
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Because square have their heads in the sand when it comes to this thing. They probably do believe they take it to discord where players discuss how much Gil they can pay for a clear. What else would they discuss? Ofc kind stranger ill happily leave you my wallet while I go away, how kind of you to offer to look after t for me. I know you'll never run off with it and steal my money. *eyeroll*
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    Because square have their heads in the sand when it comes to this thing. They probably do believe they take it to discord where players discuss how much Gil they can pay for a clear. What else would they discuss? Ofc kind stranger ill happily leave you my wallet while I go away, how kind of you to offer to look after t for me. I know you'll never run off with it and steal my money. *eyeroll*

    If they are taking it to outside sources chances are RL money is also involved. Paypal makes it really easy to transfer money from one party to another. I highly doubt people setting this kind of stuff up outside of the game are using in-game currency.
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