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    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    I dont think we should be having Male/Female/Racial exclusive armors and weapons in this day and age.
    I actually completely disagree. For one, the calendar year has little to do with things. It's like year 6 of the current era in Eorzea... or something like that.
    I advocate for more racial gear, more gendered gear. Gear that accentuates the body frame and is tailor made to the race. We aren't all the same, we shouldn't be wearing all the same (I say this while using a completely free to all glamour set lol).
    If we can all get equal amounts, but unique gear, we end up with more variety overall. Seeing more variety used either as sets, or pieces of, will allow a much broader look to everyone as a whole.
    People can feel a bit special wearing something someone else can't, while at the same time feeling envious over the gear their friend is wearing but they can't. Everyone loves both these things, feeling special and feeling upset! It's 2019 afterall.

    So we can get better looking gear, tailor made to an individual. We can get more unique options to look at out into a crowd than if everyone just got the same stuff. This can't happen without more RSE, more gendered equipment, more uniqueness and less homogenization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I actually completely disagree. For one, the calendar year has little to do with things. It's like year 6 of the current era in Eorzea... or something like that.
    I advocate for more racial gear, more gendered gear. Gear that accentuates the body frame and is tailor made to the race. We aren't all the same, we shouldn't be wearing all the same (I say this while using a completely free to all glamour set lol).
    If we can all get equal amounts, but unique gear, we end up with more variety overall. Seeing more variety used either as sets, or pieces of, will allow a much broader look to everyone as a whole.
    People can feel a bit special wearing something someone else can't, while at the same time feeling envious over the gear their friend is wearing but they can't. Everyone loves both these things, feeling special and feeling upset! It's 2019 afterall.

    So we can get better looking gear, tailor made to an individual. We can get more unique options to look at out into a crowd than if everyone just got the same stuff. This can't happen without more RSE, more gendered equipment, more uniqueness and less homogenization.
    What you're asking for here is infinitely less reasonable when it comes to workload, nor does it offer further uniqueness when it limits options so severely (see: Black Desert's per-class outfits). There is no way SQX can consistently make unique gear for every race and gender in a game this huge. It's just not possible in a game of this magnitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    What you're asking for here is infinitely less reasonable when it comes to workload, nor does it offer further uniqueness when it limits options so severely (see: Black Desert's per-class outfits). There is no way SQX can consistently make unique gear for every race and gender in a game this huge. It's just not possible in a game of this magnitude.
    I don't think this request has anything to do workloads. I'm fully aware that designing 8 pieces of gear is about 8x the work than one piece of gear.
    But if you miss the idea of uniqueness, I can't see how you don't see it, to be frank. There'd be 14 unique outfits floating around the world instead of one. Hell, even compared to 14 all-wearable outfits (which negates your workload complaint) you'd still be seeing something more unique as limitations drive creativity. Putting together something unique to you allows you to be you, and not the other 13 racialgenders out there. Right now you and I can equip the Miqo'te Loincloth and have a mini skirt on any other outfit we desire. That's unique to us. If everyone had access to it, then it loses it's value as something unique. It's just another drop in the ocean of gear rather than the big catch of the day.

    You then go on to say say that it's impossible for them to create it, but it's not impossible. I don't know if you thought I meant EVERY piece of gear, that's certainly unreasonable. But to add another RSE set or two would be lovely and far within means of reasonable requests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    Worse still is when you remember that one of Final Fantasy's most popular games features a particularly beloved scene in which the protagonist crossdresses.
    I'm kicking myself for not using this as an example.


    [QUOTE=rachcouture;4986520]Sexual fanservice is fine, but to make it work in something intended to have a broad appeal, it has to go both ways. I'm saying this as a hella gay woman that's super excited for glamazon bunny girls.[QUOTE=rachcouture;4986520]

    And truthfully it isn't even entirely about sexual fanservice. It's just nice to have options, the flexibility to wear what you want and customize your character to your liking. To much options is always better than not enough I say ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    Worse still is when you remember that one of Final Fantasy's most popular games features a particularly beloved scene in which the protagonist crossdresses.
    Kid that was for humor not some kind of advocating for gender equality in the 90s lol. Cloud dressing as a woman was just funny. That's all it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Kid that was for humor not some kind of advocating for gender equality in the 90s lol. Cloud dressing as a woman was just funny. That's all it was.
    I didn't say it was.

    And I mean, unless you're older than 31, which I'm somehow doubting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    I didn't say it was.

    And I mean, unless you're older than 31, which I'm somehow doubting...
    Then why try to use that scene crutch your stance on this genderlock crap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    I didn't say it was.

    And I mean, unless you're older than 31, which I'm somehow doubting...
    Since I am older than 31, by a few years, and ff7 was my first introduction to the ff franchise, and a game I've played through probably at least a dozen times.. Yes, I'm definitely going to call bull on trying to use that as an analogy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Then why try to use that scene crutch your stance on this genderlock crap?
    Because they have no substantive argument. Only feelings and emotion, which by their very nature are usually illogical.
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    At least OP and his little trusty sidekick are amusing. Can't wait for the expansion so these bored people can go play the game.
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