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    Player
    Kyp's Avatar
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    Kyp Halcyon
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Catching up through normal modes isnt going to go quickly like getting all of your story and dungeons done did.
    Party finder is the tool you need to use to get through the normal modes.
    As far as doing savages, again make a party finder staying your time availability and experience if any and someone will eventually talk to you. The biggest hurdle to raid in ANY game (Ive played almost every MMO since everquest) is joining a team, and it takes time no matter where you go.

    Any FC that requires raid experience to be a member isnt a FC worth being a part of. On top of that all FCs with a raid team or component that Ive seen end up having big drama issues later on. Join a FC to make friends and play the content that isnt raids. Your raid team should use a linkshell or a discord to keep in contact.
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    Ku Rando
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    Alpha
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    A good solution would be to add those instances in with this new moogle currency thing they're doing.
    I mean there is the Normal Raid Roulette to assist with queues, so something is available already. Having to queue for older Alex (normal) raids in HW and not having this Roulette often resulted in waits twice or thrice as long, so it's an improvement at least.
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I mean there is the Normal Raid Roulette to assist with queues, so something is available already. Having to queue for older Alex (normal) raids in HW and not having this Roulette often resulted in waits twice or thrice as long, so it's an improvement at least.
    Normal Raid Roulette does not help you with the Omega raids as very, very few level 70 players queue for this daily (it's simply not worth the hassle).

    Catch-up for the older tier is a problem that SE needs to address. I remember FC friends who where trying to unlock Deltascape during the tail-end of Sigmascape. They gave up upon waiting for hours in Duty Finder. Surprisingly few people know the Party Finder or are comfortable using it. And the language setting (which defaults to you client language) is a major issue on the EU data centers. A lot of people were surprised how fast their queues popped after telling them to add *all* languages.
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    Judy Hopps
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I mean there is the Normal Raid Roulette to assist with queues, so something is available already. Having to queue for older Alex (normal) raids in HW and not having this Roulette often resulted in waits twice or thrice as long, so it's an improvement at least.
    A lot of people use ilvl cheese so they can get old heavensward raids though which hurts the intent.

    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    They actually still do, during peak hours. I have been collecting the orchestration rolls lately from those duties and it takes around 15-30mins. Still a while, but not too bad.
    I went through deltascape on my alt a few weeks ago and it took like 30 minutes to an hour for each battle so we spread them out over a few days since we had to cancel some queues, this was like 11pm-1am eastern time usa.
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    You gotta do like everyone else to climb to get there!
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    You are correct that queueing for MSQ content can take hours. This is a huge problem in the game that hurts new players, but SE can't do much more than they already do to help the situation. Playing during the morning NA/EU time makes this worse.

    Deltascape normal is served by Normal Raid roulette, Mentor Roulette and people queueing directly. I think that it shouldn't take too long to get into these, but if it does I suggest joining an FC or recruiting in Party Finder.

    Deltascape savage is not normally done by queueing directly on NA datacenters, but by joining a static, recruiting in Party Finder or joining a discord (a lot of people have small raiding discords that you end up in when you're pugging them).

    I notice your world is set as Tonberry, which is a JP world. On JP DC I am told they make better use of queueing directly for savage raids. Of course, you'll struggle if you don't tick the box to be paired with the language the majority of the DC uses.

    Important to remember is that Deltascape is not a current raid and that people usually focus on the most recent raid. The most current raid is Alphascape. Its raiding tier would normally be over by now, but a new one won't replace it for about 2 months, so there is an activity lull until then which may contribute to making it harder to find people.

    You do need to complete Deltascape normal to progress to Sigmascape and Alphascape normal. You do not need to complete Deltascape savage to progress to Sigmascape and Alphascape savage.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    You are correct that queueing for MSQ content can take hours.
    o.O

    I did recently brought a nearly fresh twink char from Copperbell Mines to the current end of MSQ.

    Wait times was around 15-20 mins for dungeons and less than 5 mins for trials. Only the 2 Castrum parts needed a little bit longer to wait.

    All while being a DPS.
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    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

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    Rica Elak'ha
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    o.O

    I did recently brought a nearly fresh twink char from Copperbell Mines to the current end of MSQ.

    Wait times was around 15-20 mins for dungeons and less than 5 mins for trials. Only the 2 Castrum parts needed a little bit longer to wait.

    All while being a DPS.
    Same for a DPS Alt on Chaos DC.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    I did recently brought a nearly fresh twink char from Copperbell Mines to the current end of MSQ. Wait times was around 15-20 mins for dungeons and less than 5 mins for trials. Only the 2 Castrum parts needed a little bit longer to wait. All while being a DPS.
    That's good to know. I have met plenty of new players over the years though who talk of hours-long queue times and have appreciated my tank queue. It may vary a lot on the time of day they play, the time of year, the content, the DC habits and DC population.
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    Elise Hamilton
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    They should really develop content that anyone can "easily" participate in and fun at the same time.

    Black Desert Online has Node wars.

    GW2 has World vs World

    FFXIV only has Quicksands - Uldah lol.
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