watch a guide, you are not gonna die

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Do you read a walkthrough before every game you play? I don't. I look something up if I don't know how to progress. That's also true for FF14.

And outside of EX-/Savage/Ultimate there are usually not more then 1-2 special mechanics per dungeon/trial you may need to know about, which usually can be described in one- or two lines. Like dragon's voice/ram's voice in Cutter's Cry. So it's really not much of an hassle to explain it to a newcomer if they ask what they need to watch out for.

[Odstarva]

I don't get this "watch a guide" thing.

You know, those guides you follow were written by someone that first went through the content blind, right?


Not to be an ass, but if you've played long enough to get to 70 you certainly shouldn't need a guide to do any piece of content. Just wing it!
It's fair to warn your fellow party members you're new, but I think it's just anti-fun to spoil yourself the new experience by watching someone else go through it first.

I mean, it's a game...What's so bad about failing a few times if it comes to that?

[SerLuke]

LOL. Calm down people. It's okay. People are just going to solve this problem by leaving your PF if you can't do mechanics, and then you'll whine about people being mean, not spending their precious time gaming holding your hand like a toddler, through content. Sheesh. There's no need to be so uncivil about this.

Was this meant to be ironic?

[Neoyoshi]

What did people do before video guides where a thing?

Not that i have a thing against them, i watch them myself; but not out of necessity, but by choice.

As for other people though, no one should ever have to feel pressured into watching video guides before-hand; it's a silly notion and if someone asks for mechanics- the other people don't necessarily have to respond if they do not feel like it; but the response: "Go watch a video guide" is simply obtuse, no one needs to actually say that; and theirs no realistic justification for forcing that on to people.

Want to know the best way to learn the mechanics? Experience them first hand, die by them, and learn from the mistakes made.

After-all, isn't that how we all learned? Or were there video guides that magically appeared the moment we experienced something for the first time it existed?

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

we all really gotta stop treating people that dont want to take their time to explain mechanics to someone that comes in blind to whatever duty and say that they are being rude to tell that person that is blind to watch a guide before hand, we got mentors to do that, but not everyone is a mentor, if you are just gonna go into a duty blind and ask for mechanics instead of being one of those people that wanna learn by themselves, then theres no point in not watching a video first, there are nice people that explain everything in 7 minutes tops, and everytime i tell someone to watch a guide when they ask for mechanics they get really mad like its an insult for me not to want to give them the mechanics if they couldnt get of their asses to know them. my time and everyones is worth more than people being lazy, we do duties everyday and we get people that dont even care to follow simple rules, and then someone comes in blind and we are all suppose to be friendly for them not wanting to take their time to watch a video? that type of action is not ok, and you all need to change that mentality.

you desever to be insult and kicked out of the party honestly watching a video doesnt help everyone in fact it makes it worse on some. Your time IS YOUR PROPLEM USE THE PARTY FINDER IF YOU CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT "YOUR TIME"

its your own fault going into a df expect ppl to learn the way you do. i would auto kick u from a party just by mentioning a video

[Neoyoshi]

I mean, it's a game...What's so bad about failing a few times if it comes to that?

Success can only be achieved through failure; i feel like people often forget that failure is a part of the learning process in... well... everything.

[VictorTheed]

That $5 nacho box at taco Bell is pretty good but I wished they'd bring back the nacho fries.

[SerLuke]

And personally I do DF content the day it comes out just so people don’t be jerks about forcing people to watch guides

[Neoyoshi]

That $5 nacho box at taco Bell is pretty good but I wished they'd bring back the nacho fries.

Ha, nice rhyming with the thread title. :P

[Vahlnir]

i know, i can make a very detailed document saying why something isnt ok and no one will listen, but im gonna at least try to stop people from being awful when faced to "watch a guide", everyone seems to think its extremely rude to say that, and its just homework dude, its not degrading

But when it's unnecessary "homework" then it borders on ridiculousness. Guides aren't needed for most content in the game. It only takes a few words to tell people what they need to know. Judging by your attitude it's no surprise that people may find it rude coming from you. In a dungeon you don't say "go watch a guide"...you say "watch out for this and that, k let's go!" That is ALL it takes. Get over yourself.