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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    Kleeya White
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    Most players dont even know there is tons of useful news and patchnotes on the official website of the game (i am sometimes seen as a genius well informed on FF14 just by reading them). Do you really expect everyone to be able to find guides on everything elsewhere, and understand them all when they are in a foreign language they dont speak ?

    Some people dont even know these kind of guides exists. Some dont want to see spoilers in them. And some others will not be bright enough to go look at them, not when they are answering "internet explorer" when you ask what kind of computer they have. FF14 is a game, a hobby, where lot of players only want to launch it, play it, close it, and that's it. They dont want to take regularly time to search tons of infos to optimize what they are doing like it was an irl job where you have to take care of your productivity.

    Even the bots you have sometimes with you in the game (like Noctis in the FF15 event, or those in the last scholar job quests) are telling you how to handle mechanics. I wonder if they are gonna continue to do that in the incoming trust system, or tell you "go look at a guide !" to make it looks like they are real players XD
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    TalosEscher's Avatar
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    Talos Escher
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Most players dont even know there is tons of useful news and patchnotes on the official website of the game (i am sometimes seen as a genius well informed on FF14 just by reading them). Do you really expect everyone to be able to find guides on everything elsewhere, and understand them all when they are in a foreign language they dont speak ?

    Some people dont even know these kind of guides exists. Some dont want to see spoilers in them. And some others will not be bright enough to go look at them, not when they are answering "internet explorer" when you ask what kind of computer they have. FF14 is a game, a hobby, where lot of players only want to launch it, play it, close it, and that's it. They dont want to take regularly time to search tons of infos to optimize what they are doing like it was an irl job where you have to take care of your productivity.

    Even the bots you have sometimes with you in the game (like Noctis in the FF15 event, or those in the last scholar job quests) are telling you how to handle mechanics. I wonder if they are gonna continue to do that in the incoming trust system, or tell you "go look at a guide !" to make it looks like they are real players XD
    i know, i can make a very detailed document saying why something isnt ok and no one will listen, but im gonna at least try to stop people from being awful when faced to "watch a guide", everyone seems to think its extremely rude to say that, and its just homework dude, its not degrading
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    i know, i can make a very detailed document saying why something isnt ok and no one will listen, but im gonna at least try to stop people from being awful when faced to "watch a guide", everyone seems to think its extremely rude to say that, and its just homework dude, its not degrading
    But when it's unnecessary "homework" then it borders on ridiculousness. Guides aren't needed for most content in the game. It only takes a few words to tell people what they need to know. Judging by your attitude it's no surprise that people may find it rude coming from you. In a dungeon you don't say "go watch a guide"...you say "watch out for this and that, k let's go!" That is ALL it takes. Get over yourself.
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    Light Khah
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    It really depends imo on the content. If you go into savage fights or ex primaes you either should be fine with truly going in blind or read/watch a guide, because those fights have often too many mechanics to explain. But I am fine if someone watched a guide but did not remember a specific mechanic and asks about this after the try.

    I dont agree with the sentiment if its about normal content. Of course if someone wants an accurate detailed explanation of a fight then maybe they should have looked it up, but I see no harm in mostly going in blind and then ask if there is anything that kills in there. This is not happening that often in dungeons and should be explained quite fast. And if there is none then there needs to be no explanation too.
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    Suzu Hakase
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    I get what OP is saying. It's silly to go into a dungeon/trial/etc for your first run and immediately ask for mechanics just before each boss (I see tanks do this requently). If they want spoilers they should've looked them up before queuing. I give these players one of two answers: "Enjoy your first time", or "Eat pills avoid ghosts". Nine times out of ten they never ask again.
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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    I only watch guides for Extreme/Savage content.
    All other content I run blind, cause there's absolutely nothing in MSQ progression or sidequests that requires you to know in advance what will happen.
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    O'siris Nunh
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    At The Risk Of Sounded Like That Guy I rather Go into All content Blind it's more fun for me, like someone stated earlier the most I may die is once or twice to a unknown mechanic, or a spin on a previous one. I'm sorry but I grew up beating games with no help and the challenge of learning from your mistakes.
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrus718 View Post
    At The Risk Of Sounded Like That Guy I rather Go into All content Blind it's more fun for me, like someone stated earlier the most I may die is once or twice to a unknown mechanic, or a spin on a previous one. I'm sorry but I grew up beating games with no help and the challenge of learning from your mistakes.
    Maybe Square should introduce a 0800-FINALFANTASY hotline for people
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Going in blind in half the fun. That's why there's such a thing as learning parties for Extreme/Savage, and anything less difficult that those should be entirely fair game.
    Of course Savage and Ultimate are a bit different in that IF you want to go in blind, the onus should be on you to seek that sort of accommodation, by joining a specified learning party or starting your own.

    People enjoy, and learn things differently. I personally find it's much easier to learn a fight by failing its mechanics, than by watching a youtube video.
    I could study a video for hours and still not completely get it, but a couple plays throughs and I'm completely on the ball.
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    Rei Makato
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    As OP has said many times, I totally agree that if someone is explicitly asking for the mechanics when they enter something, they would have been better off looking up a guide. Going into casual content blind is fine, why not, but if you're gonna go in then just ask someone to explain it all to you then you've no reason to have not looked at a guide. Especially so for dps out there, you have queue times, use them to look shit up briefly.
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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