Sanity check - crafting job skip potions?

[Violet_Galaxy]

NO! You will feel the struggle of crafting and inventory management and you will like it!

[DumdogsWorld]

As omni crafter goes without saying there is stuff that will be very hard to craft if not impossible without cross classes skills. The Fying chair that weavers can make is one that comes to mind has its Difficulty is 6k+ crafting that without cross class abilities, means you would need higher stats and gear then a Omni to successfully craft it.

I completely agree with you, so please do not take my post the wrong way.

The flying chair is an alchemy craft.

[wereotter]

The amount of lazy people who want DoH/DoL jobs to be basically “paid off” without putting in any effort is astounding. Really doubt SE will put this in the game.

It's not exactly laziness when you look at the absolute amount of time and effort it takes to catch up if you haven't done any crafting and you're sitting at level 70 (soon to be level 80) and want to start being able to get leveled and geared to be able to craft. It doesn't have to be a full level up on everything, even just to level 50 so you can start doing moogle quests and custom deliveries would be enough to help people catch up without "ruining the economy" as some people are suggesting (personally I think people are being a bit too doomsday thinking that, and side with the idea that more crafters means a more vibrant market)

The real effort to making the high end items people are selling still means you have to farm Tomestones, scrips, and timed gathering nodes, so just being leveled on crafting won't automatically tank any market.

[Maxcrafter]

Also, what does this have to do with our conversation? Okay, look. I’ve been a crafter since 2.0. I enjoy making gear prices low so people can afford it, I enjoy crafting..make around 300 pieces of gear a day because I work from home, ...!

Nifty number - if that 300 is all ILVL 340 DoH/L or all ILVL 380 DOM/W, or some mix - that's impressive. I struggle to make a tenth of that on a daily basis, macros and all. The cool part is, production of that magnitude means I've definitely missed something along the way, which means there's a ton more to learn! Opens the recipe books...

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[JowyAtreides]

No thanks.

[Kaedan]

Also, what does this have to do with our conversation? Okay, look. I’ve been a crafter since 2.0. I enjoy making gear prices low so people can afford it, I enjoy crafting..make around 300 pieces of gear a day because I work from home, I love World Visit even though many high end crafters hate it due to lower prices. I even have a lot of Gil that I share with friends. Even purchased Large Plots for friends in the past due to me being “rich”.

Smaller profit margins are nothing. I enjoy crafting because it’s fun. What I dislike about jump potions for crafters, is that it will immediately undermine everyone’s hustle and struggle to get to where they are. It also greatly benefits RMT accounts as I’ve said numerous times..

Please leave out your personal feelings about high end crafters and be objective here! Come on!

There is no "hustle and struggle". We have Moogle and Namazu quests. Those alone guarantee you can get max level in no time. That's why the "you should have to work for it" argument is invalid, because the current situation is you most definitely do not have to work for it.

[JowyAtreides]

There is no "hustle and struggle". We have Moogle and Namazu quests. Those alone guarantee you can get max level in no time. That's why the "you should have to work for it" argument is invalid, because the current situation is you most definitely do not have to work for it.

I wish they'd reduce the exp gain from these and they'd give some job progression requirement to actually do a few crafts from the log, but that's a completely different area of discussion which I already believe people don't like.

[Phileas]

The reason why it would be a bad idea is imagine the effect on gatherers that sell mats to levelling crafters. Granted yes there are rmt that gather a lot to make gil but there are a lot of players as well that make gil from gathering and selling mats to crafters.

Gathering and crafting are intertwined quite closely in the levelling process and so if jump potions were allowed, it could cause that entire market to evaporate. While yes rmt could make less by gathering, it would also make gil more difficult for newbie players that also make money selling gathered mats.

[KageTokage]

Chances are the number of DoL/H bots would explode if they ever offered level skips for them.

I see plenty enough as is when people have to actually level them and money is clearly no object to some of their owners (Possibly because they're involved in RMT themselves...) when they're oft running multiple bots simultaneously and some even Fantasia/name change them just for aesthetics.

[Lersayil]

I dont see why not. Even if they'd jump to the max current level they'd barely affect the high end market unless they put in effort and money for gear, and we're not even considering the missing omni crafter skills.

Hell, I have half my crafters on 70 (and the rest in progress) and I can only make some small pocket change due to laziness and lack of gear.